Mid Valley Writers Top 18: Playoff Edition

With the second round brackets now set we compiled our Top 18 with the local playoff teams still alive. We also included Paraclete to even things out. Here are the rankings of the 18 teams still standing: 

1. Cathedral (10-1) – Phantoms pack for Upland.

2. Charter Oak (11-0) – Chargers show no mercy on Crespi.

3. Paraclete (10-1) – How good are the Spirits?

4. St. Francis (10-1) – Golden Knights survive La Serna scare.

5. South Hills (9-1) – Huskies come alive in second half.

6. Arroyo (11-0) – Knights get Rancho Mirage rematch.

7. Downey (9-2) -Vikes eliminate Etiwanda; Corona Del Mar next.

8. Mayfair (10-1) – Monsoons cruise by Chaffey in first round.

9. Burbank (9-2) – Bulldogs get good local matchup with South Hills.

10. Glendora (8-3) – Tartans too much for Santiago.

11. Diamond Ranch (8-3) – Panthers are home against El Modena.

12. Schurr (10-1) – “It’s getting better all the time…better! better! better!”

13. Covina (9-2) – Colts get the spotlight on Thursday night.

14. Arcadia (8-3) – Apaches have won five straight down the stretch.

15. South El Monte (10-1) – Eagles get another shot at Rancho Christian.

16. San Marino (8-2) – Titans get the long bus ride to Bishop Diego.

17. Montebello (7-4) – Oilers advance but now get Apple Valley.

18. Nogales (10-1) – A very noble season for Nogales.

50 Comments to "Mid Valley Writers Top 18: Playoff Edition"

  1. Stelios SHS's Gravatar Stelios SHS
    November 16, 2017 - 10:50 am | Permalink

    Like I said you sound like a BG guy… no one needs to recruit from BG they all want out, why don’t you ask somebody! Ha!

  2. Facts's Gravatar Facts
    November 16, 2017 - 10:28 am | Permalink

    @old time Spartan
    You’re one of the coaches that got fired. Ramos is doing an amazing job as the head coach at Schurr. Be proud that Schurrs program is doing well and is back to being a champion. Your stupid comment about thanking Jude gives you away. The staff has done a great job of preparing the kids and the kids execute. Schurr doesn’t run Ramos’s offense but they still run dive and veer very effectively. Those two plays are part of the “tell” offense you talk about lol.

  3. @old time spartan's Gravatar @old time spartan
    November 16, 2017 - 10:25 am | Permalink

    You sound like a hater. Maybe someone that was part of the old staff that got fired. You should be happy with all the success and be hopeful that the future is bright and they can run off the league titles off and cif runs again. Stop being so sour you couldn’t get it done and they brought someone in that could.

  4. Old time spartan's Gravatar Old time spartan
    November 16, 2017 - 10:15 am | Permalink

    @ Stelios SH
    Again.. you don’t know that’s why it don’t make sense.
    @ Sparta
    The off season? Whats gonna happen? Lower levels don’t have much. And Ramos recruiting of BG kids backfired. Who’s transferring in?

  5. Cardinal Pride's Gravatar Cardinal Pride
    November 16, 2017 - 8:03 am | Permalink

    @ Reality Check,
    Elias won’t be at Cantwell next year but he will be a head coach somewhere with Jude on his staff. Great young mind and the kids really connect with the coach. He will have a lot of offers to pick from so where he ends up no one knows. Schurr has a real good shot to run the table if they can get by tomorrows long drive.

  6. Dan's Gravatar Dan
    November 16, 2017 - 1:46 am | Permalink

    Whats Paraclete been doing this past couple of years, their almost like a D1 school now.

  7. The Fan's Gravatar The Fan
    November 16, 2017 - 1:39 am | Permalink

    @ranch 18…your insight is sooo far fetched. You lost all your common sense, not just a little bit but all of it! We have problems right here at the ranch and your gonna go throw shade on someone else? …please! You guys blame the kids for quitting when it starts at home with the parents and the coaches, particularly medrano. Then we have half the team disgruntled after you and other people blame the kids but medrano is sooo great? Now more kids don’t wanna play next year. Your talking out of your neck bro. Cantwell made the playoffs and love their coach. Its el rancho that has kids unhappy and wanting to leave for a fact!!! …

  8. Areafan's Gravatar Areafan
    November 15, 2017 - 10:24 pm | Permalink

    No salt only reality.

  9. November 15, 2017 - 9:48 pm | Permalink

    Area fan
    What is your point? Every school goes through ups and downs… Schurr is fortunate to have such a talented class. What are you gonna say if they win, I’ll bet you can’t do it again? Cmon man

  10. Fact's Gravatar Fact
    November 15, 2017 - 8:48 pm | Permalink

    Salty much.

  11. Areafan's Gravatar Areafan
    November 15, 2017 - 7:27 pm | Permalink

    When this loaded class graduates let’s see how great Schurr is.

  12. Sparta's Gravatar Sparta
    November 15, 2017 - 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Stay tuned to see what happens up on the hill in the off season…you will be surprised. Until then, Santa Maria here come the Spartans!!!!!!

  13. November 15, 2017 - 5:03 pm | Permalink


    we need an edit function. My keyboard is a lousy typist.

  14. November 15, 2017 - 5:00 pm | Permalink

    I made the mistake of “venting” on this blog last year. Won’t do it again. If I need to tell our coach that I think his azz sucks buttermilk thru a straw, he has an open door. If needed, we can both tell each other off and then move on. I have too much respect for our coaches to make the same mistake again. I may not always agree with something but I am not the coach. All us arm chair quarterbacks have that luxury of hindsight.
    All coaches deserve to be treated the same way. Need to vent? They are used to it, and more than able, and willing, to go toe to toe with your opinions right back.
    No Coach or school deserves to be hung out to dry with only 1 sided ( and usually wrong ) comments on blogs. Especially being blind sided and hung out to dry by someone that has zero affiliations to a school they are ragging on.
    I always laugh at Ron White’s saying….”Next time you have an thought….let it go”.
    That advice has served me well this last year. And let my mouth heal back up from being overly stretched out from my foot.
    Got a gripe? Go to the source.

    I now return this blog to the regular scheduled rants all ready in progress…..

  15. Reality Check's Gravatar Reality Check
    November 15, 2017 - 4:51 pm | Permalink

    Elias to Cantwell as HC..

  16. SoCal Bulldog's Gravatar SoCal Bulldog
    November 15, 2017 - 2:55 pm | Permalink

    Well said Colt74. I think every team listed on this thread will have a good night of football this week. I would say that maybe 75 or 80 % of these teams will win there quarter final matches. Maybe the poll is a little out of order, but all of these teams are doing great and the kids are getting better each week and having fun doing it.

  17. TheRanch18's Gravatar TheRanch18
    November 15, 2017 - 2:42 pm | Permalink

    @Apaches Joe

    schurr cant hire Jude Oliva…. whats he gonna do ? is Elias going to step down and let jude be the OC?
    or is ramos going to step down and let jude be the HC?

    Jude is merely helping a friend out at schurr this year… next year he will be somewhere else… He’s going to be a OC or HC somewhere next year… hopefully he stays in the area and dont go back to the OC.
    From MVS Staff: If Elias doesn’t work out and Oliva goes somewhere else we heard T. Peterson is going to be the new OC.

  18. Sgv Insider's Gravatar Sgv Insider
    November 15, 2017 - 1:55 pm | Permalink

    😅😅😅😅😅 I’ll do that….

  19. Apaches Joe's Gravatar Apaches Joe
    November 15, 2017 - 1:16 pm | Permalink


    So you’re telling me after 2 years under jude elias was able to learn the offense? You ain’t giving that dude enough credit. He was the OC at Arcadia for many years and doing a fine job. That guy is a great person and coach, I’m sure jude helped in his growth as a coach (jude is a great coach) Schurr is lucky to have him, wish we did. Watch out if Schurr does snag jude. Schurr might become a FORCE for many years

  20. SHS's Gravatar SHS
    November 15, 2017 - 1:06 pm | Permalink

    @Sgv Insider
    According to Eric Dubay the earth is flat look in to it prety good stuff.

  21. NWO's Gravatar NWO
    November 15, 2017 - 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Elias is the OC, but he did learn a lot of that offense while at Buena Park under Jude…….

  22. Stelios SHS's Gravatar Stelios SHS
    November 15, 2017 - 11:32 am | Permalink

    @Old Time Spartan
    you make no sense as well, what does Jude have to do with Ramos’ success this year? i dont get it? Ramos hired dudes to come in and handle the offense and defense and it seems to be working out. kuddos to him for recognizing that! get off your high horse and dont use the oldtime spartan name cuz we all know you arent a supporter

  23. November 15, 2017 - 11:11 am | Permalink

    The thing that lately seems to stand out to me in blogs is that people can question the character of a Coach, or a team/school, while at the same time showing a complete lack of character from themselves in their posts.

    Just sayin…

  24. Old time spartan's Gravatar Old time spartan
    November 15, 2017 - 9:58 am | Permalink

    @ Stelios HS
    Learn how to comprehend what you read!… I never said that Jude was calling the offense. Point being that Ramos is not running his “tell” offense. If I was a BG bum I would be all over the stupid veer Ramos ran. But your a puppy when it comes to this kinda thing ,it was well before your time. So keep it to yourself if you don’t know. Enjoy it while it last.

  25. The Dude's Gravatar The Dude
    November 15, 2017 - 8:50 am | Permalink

    Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

  26. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    November 15, 2017 - 8:26 am | Permalink

    Let’s have Arroyo contact Warren, they have 5 open weeks for next season. I’d love to see the Bears shut these fans up!

  27. Buttermilk's Gravatar Buttermilk
    November 15, 2017 - 1:45 am | Permalink

    @Sgv Insider I’ve done my job in getting you to get your panties in a bunch….you believe you can predict the outcome of football games…well I’m here to tell you that whether I played football or not, your logic is full of DELETED….
    From T. Peterson: Do you have to swear on EVERY comment?

  28. KnightKnight's Gravatar KnightKnight
    November 15, 2017 - 1:40 am | Permalink

    By no means am I a Arroyo fan to be honest I don’t even like them. But hey if you could get in playoffs yearly with a chance at a ring I’ll take it. Those teams that talk down on them haven’t won a ring or it’s been a while.

    Then the guys that say well it’s division 12 or 11 now. So what if I’m in that division 1-13 I’m there to win it.

  29. Dan's Gravatar Dan
    November 14, 2017 - 11:43 pm | Permalink

    No hate at all towards Arroyo, if these rankings are about how a team is doing in their corner of the universe, then props for another great season for the Knights, however on the field I’m pretty sure teams 7 through 11 would beat the knights, although the Knights might hang tough with one or two of them.
    @ TTT if Arroyo is able to hang tough with Diamond Ranch then I’m pretty sure they would hang with Burbank.
    @ Anonymous, I don’t get how Downey is a whole different class of football, them and South Hills would be a great game this year, now if Downey could have hung with Santa Margarita then I would say they were a different class of football, but 56 to 0 puts Downey in the same boat as the rest of this list.

  30. Yikes Call 9-11's Gravatar Yikes Call 9-11
    November 14, 2017 - 10:30 pm | Permalink

    Two Cents
    your comments on ranking make sense. But the ranking process is inherently flawed.

    Some teams will win, and they might win in a weaker division with less competitive teams. You take any team and put them in a weak schedule in a league populated by weak sisters and they will get a walk over in their first playoff game. Then it will get more interesting as they start to play the higher seeded teams in their division.

    Teams are in Division 11-12 for a reason.

    but it makes for good banter as most of these lower division teams do not play or if they do beat higher division teams but on occasion. Would Arroyo beat Aracadia or San Marino? We can talk all day long, but it will never happen unless somebody were to make a huge donation to each school and that would be questionable

    Poor old San Marino has to go to SB to play Bishop Diego. Not only does Cal Preps rate BD at 37 to SM’s 19 but you look at the rosters. BD is obviously recruiting or something. They have Samoans that are 300 lbs plus on the line.. Their DL and OL look to average 275-280 a man. SM has guys on the line that weigh a lot less than 200. BD beat other teams that were CAL Prep ranked in the 20s by 30 points.

    Anything can happen but geez this does not look good. No wonder BD is the one seed.

    BD is just another Sierra Canyon Paraclete on its way to Division 2 or 3. If SM holds it to a 3 score game the mid valley should posthumously move SM up to the ten spot or higher even with the loss.

  31. San Dimas Fan's Gravatar San Dimas Fan
    November 14, 2017 - 9:22 pm | Permalink

    I dont understand the hate for Aroyo, didnt they beat three teams that are still in the top 18? Covina, South El Monte, and Shurr? They’re a good team, it doesnt matter what division they’re in as long as they’re winning. You cant take that away from the kids and coaches. How many can say they had an undefeated regular season? You guys that are saying “Burbank and downey would beat them” may be true but it will never happen. Players and coaches only play the teams that are in front of them, thats all that they can control. Woulda shoulda coulda is just that, hyperbole!
    From T. Peterson: “The thermometer of success is merely the jealousy of the malcontents.”

  32. Stelios SHS's Gravatar Stelios SHS
    November 14, 2017 - 8:49 pm | Permalink

    @ old time spartan
    You have no clue… jude Oliva isn’t running the offense. Ask any spartan, nice try! Ramos doing a great job stop hating you BG bum!

  33. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    November 14, 2017 - 7:37 pm | Permalink

    You shouldn’t lose BG if you’re a half way decent team. One player isn’t going to make a difference. Arroyo in a rout.

  34. My Two Cents's Gravatar My Two Cents
    November 14, 2017 - 6:23 pm | Permalink

    I agree no way Arroyo is better than Downey, Mayfair, and Glendora. They would also have trouble with Arcadia and San Marino. Schurr also should not be ranked higher than Arcadia or San Marino.

  35. Old time spartan's Gravatar Old time spartan
    November 14, 2017 - 6:00 pm | Permalink

    I guess Ramos finally listened to someone about not running his “tell” offense. And now he might win it, and running someone else’s offense. Thanks Jude! What a great situation to fall into Dave! Lmao!

  36. Sgv Insider's Gravatar Sgv Insider
    November 14, 2017 - 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Obviously you’ve never played a down of football or your one of those people who think the earth is flat. There is football played outside the fish bowl we call the SGV. They play some very tough, hard nosed, physical football North of ventura. I’ve been on many a bus ride with athletically dominate teams only to come back with an L. It’s not just Santa Maria your playing, it’s the Santa Maria community, the long bus ride in traffic and the cold weather. It makes a big difference when the majority of your team has never been North of downtown LA. Have fun junior…. And don’t speed up there. Cops up there would like nothing better than to bust a little boy like you.

  37. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    November 14, 2017 - 3:55 pm | Permalink

    Really that’s odd because Hudl shows his highlights vs Bell Gardens maybe your wrong

  38. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    November 14, 2017 - 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Schurr routs Santa Maria on Friday.

  39. Baxterfaster's Gravatar Baxterfaster
    November 14, 2017 - 2:29 pm | Permalink

    The Bank vs SH is gunna be ANOTHER good one. Last week The Bank vs Tustin was two and a half hours of HS football bliss, this weeks game could be even better!

  40. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    November 14, 2017 - 2:22 pm | Permalink

    Arroyo would probably finish top 3 in the Pacific. Arcadia, CV, and burbank are no push overs and muir seems to be ascending back to where they used to be. CV won a cif title a couple of years ago and went undefeated doing it by beating la serna in the semis and Downey in the final, burbank was just in the D8 final last year and could have if they had made a couple of more plays. Pacific league is a legit league with legit teams

  41. pacific's Gravatar pacific
    November 14, 2017 - 12:58 pm | Permalink

    @Stelios SHS

    Arroyo is definitely better that half the teams in the pacific. All I said was that they’re not better than Downey.. and other teams ranked lower than them.

  42. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    November 14, 2017 - 12:29 pm | Permalink

    Rancho mirage was without their best player prior # 1 He is a difference maker

  43. Stelios SHS's Gravatar Stelios SHS
    November 14, 2017 - 12:01 pm | Permalink

    @ pacific
    They won division 12 and what? Half your teams in the pacific are in 10 and 11…. not that much better

  44. @buttermilk's Gravatar @buttermilk
    November 14, 2017 - 11:54 am | Permalink

    Buttermilk just keep your front running to yourself. We get it you are a fan. You appeared on here and start talking all tough about a good team. Easy to do. Are you really a fan or a parent or coach who finally gets to live his dream as you jump on board with a winner. Pathetic. You are in a division that cif doesn’t care about against teams that no one has heard about. Enjoy it and keep your big talk in your small circle of people that might listen. Lets see what wonderful words you can put together in your response. Can’t wait.

  45. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    November 14, 2017 - 11:00 am | Permalink

    @sgv insider
    1. Rancho mitrage lost to bell Gardens
    Schurr beat bell gardens badly and arroyo pretty much had their way with schurr
    2. Montebello also beat bell gardens and beat Coachella in the playoffs last year pretty bad Rancho Mirage lost to Coachella
    3. Arroyo coaches prepare very well and don’t under estimate any team.

  46. Buttermilk's Gravatar Buttermilk
    November 14, 2017 - 10:36 am | Permalink

    @Sgv Insider, I just have to say that beyond a shadow of doubt that you are a stupid “Mother” …what kind of logic are you using for Schurr to lose?…” a long bus ride?…what kind of sh— is that?….You call yourself the San Gabriel Valley Insider…but you put down all the SGV schools……and your reasons are ridiculous…I never used this term before, but I will use it now because it applies……,,Your a deep down to the bone unathletic unskilled, uneducated, HATER……,

  47. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    November 14, 2017 - 10:16 am | Permalink

    I would love to hear what factual reasoning the midvalley guys can come up with as to why you would jump arroyo and south hills over downey. Tells 2 things, first they really want the local teams to be good, 2nd they clearly have not seen Downey. 2 different classes of football. Arroyo would win 1 maybe 2 league games in the SGVL.

    From Duane B.: You obviously haven’t been visiting this site long enough to know how we operate! First, the poll is more for fun than anything else and to promote discussion and a place for people to interact. And 2, I have seen Downey! I was there when they lost in overtime to Paramount. Game story is October 7, 2017! Here’s an idea. Instead of just saying we suck, give the folks reading some insight and reasons why they should be higher! As far as Arroyo goes, I would like Arroyo’s chances with Lynwood, Dominguez and Warren and would give Gahr a decent game!

  48. Sgv Insider's Gravatar Sgv Insider
    November 14, 2017 - 10:00 am | Permalink

    Arroyo, Schurr and South El Monte all lose Friday. Arroyo is underestimating Rancho Mirage thinking that last year counts on Friday. Schurr is not prepared for the long bus ride to Santa Maria. Any trip to the Los Padres is a tough trip. And South’s one man show gets exposed again. Although I will say that if any if the three can win it’s South.

  49. TTT's Gravatar TTT
    November 14, 2017 - 9:22 am | Permalink

    Honestly, Arroyo is a good program. But only good in the area they are in. Before last year when divisions were much more competitive, everyone waited for the Arroyo Hypes to go down in the playoffs. They remind me of the Cowboys in the NFL. They may look decent during season play against their own. But they consistently choked when they went about 15 miles east or west. Yes they won CIF and I won’t take that away from the kids, but you adults always rank Arroyo as if they would stand a chance against teams like Downey and Burbank. At most maybe compete with diamond ranch and I’m not even sure about Arcadia but lets get serious around here. Reading these rankings are blasphemous.

  50. Pacific's Gravatar Pacific
    November 14, 2017 - 7:33 am | Permalink

    No shot Arroyo is better than Downey, you guys are crazy.
    Arroyo is all hype, they won division TWELVE!! congratulations.
    They don’t beat half the teams ranked lower than them
    From T. Peterson: All “Hype” yet they won a CIF title. That’s hilarious. You should probably learn the definition of hype.

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