Competing in April
By Tim Peterson
(El Monte) – Arroyo hosted Marshall, Mt. View and Baldwin Park Saturday to throw the ball around.
Schurr was out in full force.
It’s early, nothing really to see here but it does wet your appetite for the upcoming football season. Mt. View and Baldwin Park both have new head coaches in Aaron Sepulveda and Josh Knight respectively. It was a little strange to see Knight, a former Arroyo assistant, in Baldwin Park colors.
Josh Knight has taken over as HC at Baldwin Park.
Schurr lost several key players to graduation but based on their numbers the Spartans shouldn’t have too much trouble replacing them.
Here’s a few shots.
Schurr is expected to throw a lot in 2018.
Trying to beat him to the corner.
They’re coming my way.
@t peterson…correct and to the point my friend!…to the rest of you hater’s…” you remind me of a girl I use to know!”
Get off Ramos please
From T. Peterson: I agree. This transfer stuff gets so old after awhile. I’m getting to the point that I could care less about transfers. Everybody does it. if you get kids in, fine. If you don’t, cool. Let CIF sort it out. They’ve already ruled that there’s only a 30-day waiting period now anyway. So if they don’t really care why should anybody else?
@ Schurr
Because a player can’t follow a head coach to that school for 2 season
Because your Air raid team was setup to “help kids out of the goodness of your heart”
Guess Ramos has no faith with their own kids. But that’s Ramos feel sorry for the kids that have been there all along just to have a transfer take their position cause Ramos doesn’t have faith in them.
Why did we get the Cantwell QB? His ex coach is at Los Altos. LA QB graduated I would think that spot is open. I here they have a great junior class and should compete for a title. ????
@henry…it’s football season brother…we will know soon enough! Best of luck to all the student/atheletes!
WHos calling them a power house? They are a good program with some good direction but that’s it! Until prove otherwise
When the hell did any Schurr fan or supporter claim the football program to be a powerhouse?????
Why don’t you gtfoh!
@Mmmm…well said! @three blind mice-…kick rock’s with your ymca “every body needs to be fair, everybody’s a winner” BS! The fact of the matter is student/atheletes (not jock sniffers as you refer to kids) are competitive spending time and money working out out, buying fear and going to private coaches as well as the parents taking them and supporting them in their craft. Student/athletes will go to a school,system or coach of their choosing and like period! Get in where you fit in B…blind mice!
1 league title in one of the weakest leagues in CIF in 5 years and they are now a powerhouse? Lmao gtfoh
Let’s be honest… the only reason Schurr has any shot at these local kid cuz the Cantwell program did an awful job hiring and might have to fold now! One man’s mistake is another man’s gains
Almost time
@ Three Blind Mice: Welcome back; it’s been a while. I appreciate your words of wisdom.
Doesn’t matter how many transfers come in to Schurr. As long as they have BABY running the defense, they won’t win anything but league.
@three blind mice
So basically you don’t like the recruiting that’s going on ???
Gano – Recruitted and won multiple CIF championships
Bogan – Same as Gano
Farrar – Has done is better than Gano and Bogan
Those three guys where doing what is being done now. The more things change, the more things remain the same. Remember that because everyone is trying to recruit players to their school, don’t BS with your made up coach story. Hell no no coach would be like oh I don’t wants kids to come into my program. Good one!
@ Schurr
So the Saturday camps that you hosted and claimed were to help out area kids. Turns out those camps like many people on the blogs were saying was to help you recruit area kids.
IN THE LAND OF THE BLIND THE ONE EYED MAN IS KING.
TRANSFERS CLEARLY MEAN THE COACH HAS NO REAL SKILLS, HIGH SCHOOL BALL HAS NOT GOTTEN BETTER IN THE VALLEY BUT MORE AND MORE A JOKE.
REMEMBER EVERYTHING IN THIS LIFE COST SOMETHING, IF YOU RECRUIT A KID OR HAVE A JOCK SNIFFING FLUNKY DO IT FOR YOU, YOU MAY WIN A FEW GAMES BUT YOU ARE NOW A MAN WITH NO INTEGRITY.
NO FOOTBALL GAME IS WORTH IT, AND IN THE EYES OF THE PLAYERS WE ALL KNOW YOUR JUST A LITTLE WEASEL.
IF YOU RECRUIT 8 PLAYERS THAN ALL TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE SHOULD RECRUIT 8 PLAYERS. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
OUT OF ALL NEW TRANSFERS INTO A SCHOOL ANYTHING MORE THAN 2 OR 3 WHO ACTUALLY PLAY FOOTBALL ARE AGAINST THE ODDS OF PROBABILITY, AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE UNTIL ALL SCHOOLS IN THAT LEAGUE HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRANSFERS.
IF THE ADS OR ADMIN HAD AN OUNCE OF INTEGRITY THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW IT BY A LEAGUE MANDATE.
ANYWAY NONE OF THESE SNEAKS WILL WIN A TITLE THIS SEASON ANYWAY, SO WHATS THE UPROAR, ONCE YOU START THE RECRUITING GAME AND YOU ARE NOT A PRIVATE SCHOOL THE KIDS WHO HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT THE SCHOOL AND PAID THE DUES WILL RESENT THE STAFF AND HEAD COACH AND WILL LET YOU DOWN WHEN YOU NEED THEM.
WINNING GAMES SHOULD NOT BE THE FIRST GOAL FOR THESE COACHES AND SCHOOLS BUT RATHER BE A MAN WITH TRUE HONESTY AND INTEGRITY.
I KNOW OF A COACH WHO HAS MANY CONNECTIONS AND GETS MANY PHONE CALLS FROM TRAVEL BALL COACHES AND FROM PARENTS ABOUT TRANSFERRING INTO HIS SCHOOL BUT HE SENDS THEM AWAY STATING I WILL NOT WIN BY BEING A SNEAK AND A CHEAT, I WANT MY PLAYERS AND MY WIFE AND FAMILY TO RESPECT ME AS AN HONEST AND FAIR MAN.
REMEMBER EVERYTHING WILL COST YOU SOMETHING.
PERHAPS THE PROBLEM WITH FOOTBALL IN THIS VALLEY IS NOT THE PLAYERS OR THE FAMILIES BUT COULD IT BE THE SNEAKS AND CHEATS RUNNING AROUND WITH NO INTEGRITY.
“A LIFE OF FRUSTRATION IS INEVITABLE FOR ANY COACH WHOSE MAIN OBJECTIVE IS WINNING” CHUCK KNOLL. CIRCA 1978
@FridayKnights,
I’m not sure he missed practices. I know that he didn’t start a few games for maybe those reasons. I do know him personally and he has a very tough life. He’s a wonderful kid that just loves football. As for a student, I’m not sure because I’m not there with him. All these Schurr clowns seem to know the insides at Montebello. Lol!! At the end of the day, I wish we would’ve had him a few more years… great tough football player..
Almont league just got more exciting. The transfers are in, its CIF or bust.
Knights,
I agree. Arroyo gets the best and the most kids year after year. If I was in your shoes I wouldn’t be sweating it either.
However, you ignored my question about Camacho. Your silence simply adds to the intrigue he might not be back.
With out without him, Arroyo wins league. The playoffs will be a different story.
@anonymous
I’m a homer but I live in reality. Arroyo has question marks unlike the past two seasons where depth was s strength. But after all said and done were still good enough to win league.
EM better be physical because they are one dimensional.
SEM needs to replace 99% of their offense.
Rosemead who knows
Mountain View ditching the double wing so who knows
Marshall yawn
Gab you can get a comment when you’re relevant again
I’ll get a full breakdown later.
But no, Arroyo isn’t losing sleep over EM kitties or anyone else in league
@olier
Those same rumors about home visits and apartments were what we were hearing on the north side Of EM. Also Rodriguez missed a ton of practices and still played. Not sure if it’s true but just chiming in.
But I do hear the roles are reversed this year, Schurr is on the recruiting trail. Getting as many verbals as possible.
@300?
You make me laugh! Where do you get your info? It’s a nice story but none of it is accurate. You can say whatever you want but at the end of the day, you’re wrong. I won’t try to justify why they came. I’ll just say it was great watching them ball out!
@ oiler 88… you’re absolutely correct! Why try to reason with clowns? Just know I’ll be sitting front and center and cheering my school on as I’ve been the last 30 years. Good luck to all the kids and schools this year.
I didn’t say Arroyo was shaking…but who knows? Maybe they are?
Arroyo takes a step huh? Does that mean Camacho isn’t coming back? If he was I would assume you’d be your normal self and say they’re going to win the Super Bowl.
Stop blaming the coaches, Its the father’s relieve their glory days. No transfer would get approved if parents didn’t ok it. Scholarship chasing
@Oiler 88
You sounds like you’ve won before. Well said, just spoke facts to everyone. No matter what program just support it and do with what you got.
@Anon
You really think Arroyo is shaking because of a transfer? They’ve proven they kni how to limit RBs especially one dimensional offenses. Arroyotakes a little step back this year but is still good enough to win league
@ oiler nation, let’s forget about what everyone else is doing and talk about the team we are building. This coming year will be a challenge for Pete but I am confident he will work his magic. I think the energy some of us our spending on other programs just makes us look bad. These are young men playing a game and some of us seem to forget that.
Lmfao they we’re not pouched from Schurr? The only one that went there on his own was Vital. K rod was begged by Pete to come to Montbello. Saying that he will get him eligible and that Vital dad who owns apartments will give his family an apartment with section 8. Told his k rod mom they Schurr was just using him for football and that he was never going to graduate. But Pete used him only was eligible for football season. Let him miss a while week of practice and still play in games. Then when he was finally fed up with all his stuff left him out to dry. Angel was promised that he would get him eligible by the start of the season to play. Didn’t happen and even had to forfeit a game cause he played and was ineligible. Don’t kid yourself Pete is a used car salesman. Promises everything. Even promising that he can get kids recruited to USC. Lol
IS that why they played even when academically ineligible? Please tell me why you forfeited the BG game than? Cuz they were held accountable for grades? Sure sure! You have a funny way of keeping kids accountable. Kids wanna play at Schurr, Montebello, El Rancho, Whittier etc…. let them stop your crying about who’s going where and coach up!
I saw EM’s new toy last week. About 6 feet, 175 lbs, African Americans kid. He definitely passed the eye test.
A few questions. #1 Can the transfer and their returning RB rack up yards behind their below average line? I’ve seen their two big kids and they’re soft. #2 How good is their defense? #3 Can their one trick pony offense ground and pound Arroyo for a league title?
@soartan alumni?
Don’t place blame on us because your players left. It’s obvious they were not happy. MHS staff didn’t go out and poach players. They came to our school. No false promises. Held accountable. All those guys you named were disciplined one way or another for program violations and we’re punsh . Get over yourself…
If you dictate the success of your season based on how good you look during a 7 on 7, you’re crazy. MHS is going to run the ball if they are going to be any good. Arroyo will run their QB more than you think, and Schurr will need to run the ball as well. If you want to win and have a long season run the ball. Doesn’t matter what offense just make sure you run and run it well.
@OILER NATION
what god gave you? is that what you call it? Vital, Krod, Angel, … should i go on? enough is enough!
we arent what we were last year and i get that but for once in the last 8 years we have a constant… good coaching so we can count on those men to do what they have to do be successful
@no eyes on me?
You Schurr clowns have wild imaginations. I saw you guys throw recently and I’m going to say that you guys were very average. Mediocre at best. I’m not saying we’re much better but in no way shape or form are we worried. I know our staff will get our kids ready. It’s just what they do. Do us all a favor and get your 8 transfers in. You’re going to need them. We will just plug away with what God gave us. You guys are so comical. It makes my day
Speaking of transfers Arroyo better be ready El Monte had two transfers from Norwalk and Paramount. The Mission Valley League will go through the Lions Den this year. Double wing football. ground and pound. The MVL is weak and the only two teams that will compete will be Arroyo and EM. New king in town.
@all eyes on me
Please enlighten us with these house visits? Montebello is not the one bragging about their/or better yet needing transfers? Montebello being scared of losing the league title? They have won 4 of the last 5 league titles? Not too sure they are scared? Montebello JV game vs Schurr last year was not pretty. Montebello has a all league safety returning, 2 all league LB’s, a starting DE and DT on the defense returning. On Offense they have all league OT, 3 of their 4 WR’s returning (1 made all league), their all league RB and their backup QB. I think one of our other OL returns although he did not make all league. Not too shabby? Time will tell. They have over 100 players out for football and by the looks of things I don’t think our coach is very scared. Just good old business as usual.
@knight
Coach stay off the blogs. Tim both sides embarrassed themselves. For arroyo to stoop down to their level is ridiculous. Marshall had maybe 8 or 9 kids……I’ll make sure my boy keeps his emotions on check. The boys are there to compete not act like their out on the streets
From T. Peterson: No it was all Marshall…I was standing five feet away. The Marshall kid threw on the Arroyo player who was just trying to get him off of him. Then the assistant – not the HC but some skinny assistant – wouldn’t let it go and kept trying to charge the player. Another coach held him off with one arm. Haha! At one point he said “I’m a football coach but I’m a gangster too!” …what a joke! When one of the level headed Marshall players asked the one kid why he threw a punch at the Arroyo player he responded “Because he was in my way”…they started laughing at him. The whole thing was total comedy. Marshall left the field beaten and embarrassed. So anyway, that’s what happened.
@Gezzzzz yes everyone has break downs in 7 V 7. Next time come check out the big boys. We owned you guys once again. Maybe you Coach Chuck and teach your O line coach something because we made your guys look horrible. Or he can stand there again looking lost like he doesn’t know what he was doing. We will again own the line of scrimmage against you guys.
@knight
Oh and Arroyo looked amazing right? It’s cool to be a homer but The Knights where not impressive at all. How many busted coverages did your defense turn loose. Let’s not get started about what happened against Pasadena Marshall Hahahahah now that’s was Hilarious!!!!!!
From T. Peterson: Marshall embarrassed themselves. I doubt they’ll be back at Arroyo throwing anytime soon.
@too the point
Montebello has nothing to do with any transfers and can not be involved with other schools transfers…. let’s be honest the only reason Pete is/would complain would be out of fear of losing league again. While he’s at it why doesn’t Pete call CIF for Downey, Mater Dei, UpLand etc. they are getting way too many transfers, not fair… boo hoo! Maybe it’s because Pete can’t steal anymore Schurr kids, but hey they played! Schurr could have legit called CIF but they didn’t. Pete made house visits to the kids who came from Schurr, these are FACTS.
@prognasticator transfers are legal still as long as the player moves into district or uses the sit out period if he doesn’t move. That part hasn’t changed. However, all the people who coach these 7 on 7 teams can’t have players transfer into their school if they coached on that team. That’s the problem Schurr and I’m assuming other schools that are doing it are having right now! There are players on that team who go to various schools and are being rumored to transfer there, but if they do they will be deemed ineligible for the entire season. Not just the 5 games, regardless if they move or not. At that point it wont matter because that is when the undue influence will be taken into consideration
I hope everyone plays by the rules for a change. Let’s have a good, competitive season without all the recruiting and transfer drama. That goes for the entire CIF Southern Section.
Of course, I’m probably asking for too much…
@to the point
Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t transfers legal now? I don’t think the old verbiage applies anymore. Second thing is if a place like Schurr needs 8 transfers to make them a contender someone is off their rocker! Schurr has 3200 kids and a solid athletic history they should never be a bad team. That QB from Cantwell you speak of… he may be a good football player but from I hear he can’t stay healthy. So if they do recruit the kid they better get two QBs just in case lol.
Didn’t they get that Garcia kid from St Paul? That kid is solid, i don’t understand why they have to chase the cantwell QB and co…
That won’t be Schurr’s team once the pads come on, they are trying to get 8 transfers in as we speak. The big one being the QB from Cantrell, the problem they are running into is, the kid is the QB on the Elias/Oliva passing team and by definition that would be undue influence and Athletically Motivated transfer. If he or a couple of the other kids on that team transfer in Pete at Montebello would have a legitimate leg to stand on when he makes the call to CIF. Just feel sad for the home grown Schurr kids, they have athletes at the school and can easily compete in the Almont and the Division they are in but they (Ramos, Elias, Olivia) are going to sell their soul for the transfer kids and probably lose there coaching jobs while doing it.
Mr Warmth what sarcastic insensitive rude comment! Lol
If that is the Schurr team that everyone is saying going to win a championship that is hilarious. Offensively could not catch the ball and their QB was not very accurate. Defensive LBs and Corners are slow and very soft! Gonna be a long season on top of that so called hill. Too much talk by fans need to eat some humble pie and realize your chance of a championship was last year.
I tried to get a good spot on the sidelines at this event, but the college and pro scouts had already claimed the best vantage points.