The TEN: 9/27/2017

(“The TEN” is not a top ten but ten items worth being included in “The TEN”)

1. Dwyane Wade is expected to sign with the Cleveland Cavaliers once he clears waivers Wednesday.

2. The New York Knicks trade Carmelo Anthony to Oklahoma City for Enes Canter, Doug McDermott and a 2018 second round draft pick.

3. A three-year FBI probe has resulted in federal corruption charges against four assistant college basketball coaches and 10 people overall.

4. Alabama, Clemson, Oklahoma, Penn St. and USC are 1-5 in the AP College Football Poll.

5. Arroyo at Rosemead, Friday night, 7:00 p.m.

6. Bryce Harper went o for 2 with a walk in his return to the Washington Nationals after a six week stint on the DL.

7. Maranatha receiver Awan Parker stats: 15-267 yards, 2 TD.

8. On this date in 1973 Nolan Ryan strikes out 16 for a record 383 for the season.

9. Former Philadelphia Phillie star Mike Schmidt turns 68 today.

10. “And when I retired, trust me, not only did Nolan Ryan, but the entire Ryan family had withdrawals from baseball. And it was tough.” – Nolan Ryan.

28 Comments to "The TEN: 9/27/2017"

  1. MVLHoops's Gravatar MVLHoops
    October 1, 2017 - 1:30 pm | Permalink

    @Jus Sayin
    #33 was solid, but are you kidding with those “stats”? He was not even the best player on his team. You take away the QB#9, they are just average. #33 was not even on the field on their final drive on offense. Rosemead also had at least 5 kids that were better than anyone on Arroyo’s team, but still came up short.

  2. September 30, 2017 - 8:18 pm | Permalink

    Is Rosemead’s freshman#33 RB/MLB Adrian Martinez, who on Offense ran for 217yds. 3 tds,(dragging 3 players in for a score),and on Defense had 23 tackles 17 solos and 4 hurries @D.E.,Related the the Martinez of Mt.View???.IF SO, IT SHOWS.!!…Damn, this kid was tearing up the Arroyo team single handedly, if Rosemead could’ve mustered up half a player more, Arroyo would of lost and would be reminded of it for next 3 years.

  3. Mr. Objective's Gravatar Mr. Objective
    September 30, 2017 - 11:13 am | Permalink

    Note: Singiser did put together a very rugged and physical team in 2004. The 2004 Arroyo football team was Singiser’s best. No one talks about that team, but it was a beast. They were 12-0 before they lost in the semifinals. On eight occasions, Arroyo held their opponent to one score or less, and recorded 4 shutouts. That year, they shut out El Rancho and defeated La Serna 37-13 in the quarterfinals. Arroyo lost to South Hills in the semifinals. Truly, that contest was a talent mismatch. In those days, South Hills was on top of the world, winning several CIF championships.

  4. Mr. Objective's Gravatar Mr. Objective
    September 30, 2017 - 11:01 am | Permalink

    Absolutely. I agree with you Anonymous. The McKinnon Arroyo teams would destroy the recent Arroyo products. There is too much finesse going around in this era. If I recall correctly, Arroyo’s CIF title in 1986 was won by a score of 7-3. In last year’s division 12 CIF title game, Singiser went for 2 (the win) in overtime because he “didn’t want to exchange points with them” (Rancho Mirage). Basically, Singiser was implying that he knew his team couldn’t stop RM. Rancho Mirage ran nothing fancy, but was still able to run up and down the field. In a CIF title game, there should be a display of hard hitting, tough stingy defense, not a free-for-all of yards. And don’t tell me that the modern day bombardment of points is a product of good offensive execution and brilliant play calling. It’s a product of a very soft society and an era growing softer.

  5. Mr. Objective's Gravatar Mr. Objective
    September 29, 2017 - 12:56 pm | Permalink

    I give credit to all MVL coaches who have defeated Arroyo Football during their tenure. Defeating Arroyo, for MVL opponents, is a daunting task. Any coach who led their team to a victory during Arroyo week did so versus a well-coached, prepared opponent.

  6. Mr. Objective's Gravatar Mr. Objective
    September 29, 2017 - 12:41 pm | Permalink


  7. Mr. Objective's Gravatar Mr. Objective
    September 29, 2017 - 11:24 am | Permalink


    An even better question is if you install Arroyo’s football staff at Mountain View High School in 2000, how long before they would quit? Would they attract or retain their coaches? Sorry buddy, but it’s a lot easier to maintain morale, be steadfast, and return season after season when you know your next batch will be much better year after year. Singiser didn’t start from scratch. He inherited a program that was on a roll with league titles, deep playoff runs, and CIF title appearances in its past. In essence, a rich, healthy tradition. Singiser has done an outstanding job sustaining the success of Arroyo football, but he did not transcend it. Arroyo had won a CIF title, many league titles, and had standout/accomplished quarterbacks way before Singiser took over.

    To answer your question, many coaches would succeed at Arroyo if they had its resources. Not everyone, but many would.

  8. MVLHoops's Gravatar MVLHoops
    September 28, 2017 - 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Freshman football score from today
    Arroyo’s pitiful team 36, Rosemead 24

  9. Mr. Objective's Gravatar Mr. Objective
    September 28, 2017 - 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Yes, Arroyo’s football staff is clearly the best in the Mission Valley League, and it definitely makes a difference. However, it only takes mild analysis to conclude that the truer indicator of success is a football team’s talent, not its coaching staff. Winning football games is much more reliant on the quality of your players than the quality of your coaches, and I can easily justify it.

    For example, if Arroyo’s staff is so overwhelmingly elite in comparison to their contemporaries, then why did they lose to El Monte in 2012 and 2014? What, did Singiser and his staff forget how to coach for those years? And what about Arroyo’s loss to SEM in 2012 and their loss to Rosemead in 2014? Does that mean that for one year, Coach Ibis Aguilar and Coach Paramo were temporarily superior? Please.

    And what about the greatest high school football program of all time? Last year in the California State Championship, De La Salle was manhandled and surrendered the most points (56) in program history, compliments of St. John Bosco. Terry Eidson was the defensive coordinator and has been for approximately the last 30 years. In addition, even though Coach Ladouceur is no longer the head coach, he is still involved as an assistant and consultant.

    Raul Lara won several division 1 CIF Championships and dominated for years. He made the transition to Warren and has not won a playoff game while at Warren. Lost his coaching touch?

    From 1995-1999, under the command of legendary coach Don McKinnon, Arroyo had won 5 straight Mission Valley League championships. Guess who disrupted the streak in 2000? GABRIELINO. Yes, Gabrielino was the 2000 Mission Valley League Football champion. In fact, that year, for the Mission Valley League championship, Gabrielino shut out Arroyo, 14-0. Does that mean the Arroyo coaching staff forgot how to game plan, scheme, practice, motivate, etc?

    The bottom line is, coaching definitely makes a difference, but the quality/talent of your players will ultimately determine the success of your program. Period.

  10. MVLer's Gravatar MVLer
    September 28, 2017 - 8:01 am | Permalink


    Arroyo gets football players to Coach up most the others get kids their first year playing. Arroyo is grooming and the rest are coaching from ground up

  11. September 27, 2017 - 11:54 pm | Permalink

    Ok scores equals toughest games lol
    Ok ok so Rosemead was our toughest game, because if you recall there were suspensions being served that week so the team was short handed and looked every bit of it.
    SEM was tied with us at halftime if my memory serves me correctly. Score looked worse because SEM had two turnovers on back to back possessions one on a muffed punt which was turned into a td the other on the ensuing kick off which we cashed in for another touchdown. Then I’d throw in the Vikings and even Singiser himself would say the team was just flat that game but it wasn’t a tough game I don’t remember it being that close at all. although Martinez the view running back was a legit football player.

  12. Really?'s Gravatar Really?
    September 27, 2017 - 10:32 pm | Permalink

    Last years MVL scores vs Arroyo are below. Please don’t mix your scores. I believe Mtn. View played them possibly the toughest in league last year. And third best next to the loss to Hart 35-0 and the tie/forfeit win 17/17 Vs. Covina.

    Arroyo 16 Rosemead 0 16 point difference
    Arroyo 38 SEM 16 22 point difference
    Arroyo 41 EM 13 28 point difference
    Arroyo 41 Marshall 0 41 point difference
    Arroyo 38 Mtn. View 28 10 point difference
    Arroyo 56 Gabby 0 56 point difference

    If you were at the games you would have known which teams played Arroyo the toughest.

  13. Hm's Gravatar Hm
    September 27, 2017 - 9:12 pm | Permalink

    It must be varsity coaching because Arroyo’s Freshmen team is pitiful.

  14. September 27, 2017 - 8:55 pm | Permalink

    @ mvler
    Good point. I agree. Arroyo is fortunate with the talent coming in but they develop talent as well. Last year was gonna be Villa before a sophomore stepped up. The year before pantujo so they do groom guys

  15. MVLer's Gravatar MVLer
    September 27, 2017 - 8:44 pm | Permalink


    About SEMs offense not everyone gets a QB and a WR core every year or ever in cases like MtnView. Sometimes you got to go the non flashy rough way to win games.

  16. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    September 27, 2017 - 4:46 pm | Permalink

    You gentlemen obviously have no idea what your talking about. Arroyo has the largest school population by far and is 70% Hispanic and still pulls kids from the affluent North El Monte area that borders Arcadia and Temple City. Rosemead is at 1800 students and is 48% Hispanic and 48% Asian…that’s nearly 50/50. Arroyo is the class of the league with Rosemead a distant second. The two schools battled for league titles from 2013-2015. Even with a failing season last year Rosemead played the Knights the toughest.
    South has closed the gap and congrats to them, though they have a small student population of about 1400 they are 96% Hispanic. All these things matter. The pool is not equal.

  17. September 27, 2017 - 4:38 pm | Permalink

    Numbers aside for second and I’m not down playing the enrollment issue because it’s a fact more kids more talent for the most part. But Coaching is the biggest difference in league play! Gabrielino had a once in a school history Qb and did nothing with in Peters. Nice stats but no league titles
    Rosemead last year too much talent to finish below Marshall…Ever!
    El Monte nice coach maybe in a couple years they’ll be ready but they had a stretch for a couple seasons with more talent than anyone and they never made it out of the first round and 1 tie for MVL.
    SEM they have the best player in the league he’s probably gonna graduate with zero league titles. They run an outdated unimaginative offense and pair that with a zainy brainy defensive scheme and you get second place finishes.
    So point being coaches need to step up their games!

  18. September 27, 2017 - 4:24 pm | Permalink

    Gotta disagree with you bud… the enrollment numbers are not close. Arroyo and Rosemead are close 2300-2500. El Monte was 2200 no other school in league contains over 1500. I believe SEM and Mt View were on the verge of merging schools because enrollment was so low. I believe the last two years SEM enrollment was trending upwards… do you think it’s coincidence that it just so happens the football is good again? Lmfao the impact of football is far reaching. Good football team and everyone is happy.
    I agree with most posters man I’d love a new league and a new challenge.

  19. September 27, 2017 - 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Arroyo enrollment is by far larger than most of the schools in the MVL…in some cases double. SEM, MT View, Marshall and Gab are roughly 1250-1450 EMHS and Rosemead are the only schools that can match enrolment numbers. Another factor to consider…usually the city of El Monte’s best players head north to play for Arroyo. Which helps Arroyo of course but all but kills the other schools chances to compete. then you factor in the coaching staff which is miles ahead of any staff in the MVL and that equals dominance. So this year the “big” game in the MVL is Arroyo vs SEM right? Arroyo will favored by at least 14 points. Plus SEM still has not showed the ability to develop a complimentary player to Sal Tovar Arroyo knows how to slow the kid down enough to leave the eagles grounded. Having watched an SEM game this season I can say this with certainty…they are no where near as good last years team. Arroyo is also not as good but they miles ahead of SEM in talent and in coaching. So yes its time to ghet Arroyo out of the MVL.

  20. D Robbins's Gravatar D Robbins
    September 27, 2017 - 3:31 pm | Permalink

    You do realize that kids that go to Arroyo are from the city of el Monte are Same kind of kids that go to EMHS, mt view, Rosemead (which serves a large portion of West El Monte) and South El Monte (borders with Mt. Views zones). School enrollment is fairly the same amongst the schools 1800-2200 kids which is very low compared to other schools such as Arcadia 4000kids Montebello 3300 kids Schurr 3000kids. So to say that Arroyo is just not a fit for the mid valley is false. Coaching is what separates elite from mediocre. All kids have the same type of talent coming in, its up to the coaches to perfect that talent.

  21. September 27, 2017 - 2:40 pm | Permalink

    Wasn’t aware of that… thanks.
    Now, if Arroyo were to make the semis this year wouldn’t they automatically move up a division? Seems to everyone who made the semis moved up.

  22. Really?'s Gravatar Really?
    September 27, 2017 - 1:33 pm | Permalink

    You are wrong but not completely. When CIF figures your playoff division grouping your team is given points for the teams you scheduled,beat, lost and the teams they have played with their wins and losses. That is suppose to leave out opinion. So, if you schedule down, what quality wins will those bad teams have. Is Rowland going to beat Northview, San Dimas, or Covina? The highest rated team (Div 8) was Northview and thats a league team. They played (Div 3) Charter Oak so to speak. If you beat lesser teams it does not count as much. Sometimes, loosing to a higher division teams can move you up too. You can see the criteria in the playoff grouping publication on the CIF website.

  23. Really?'s Gravatar Really?
    September 27, 2017 - 1:17 pm | Permalink

    @ D
    The “Ten” mentioned Arroyo and Rosemead game. I happened to notice Rosemead’s schedule, then I looked at Arroyo’s. Last year Arroyo had Hart. I good team by all means and a good prep for lower playoff competition. It is usually a two year contract, but maybe 1 year. I don’t know for sure. Someone, probably optioned out; Hart or Arroyo. It wasn’t last second. So they picked up Schurr. Look, Schurr is not Hart in a bad year. Arroyo has had Rowland for several contracts. Why not move up? Its planned obsolescence. Divisions are set up with figures from only the last two years, not the history you are stating from the past 30 years. As far as Rancho Mirage, They have been moved up for the last 2 years in a row. Yet Arroyo has not even been put back into Division 10, which is where they belong and where they were competing for quite a while. In 2014 Schurr did not make the playoffs according to Maxpreps and were 4-8, but you can’t play Keppel and El Monte twice. Oh, by the way, I am not a Rosemead fan by any means. You are just such a spoiled homer that you love to read whats not between the lines. I never said Division 1 for Arroyo. All I said was put them where they belong.

  24. September 27, 2017 - 1:16 pm | Permalink

    I’m curious as to why scheduling down keeps you down in divisions? I thought more wins the higher you go, am I wrong? If I’m right then if Arroyo is trying to stay down wouldn’t it make more sense to schedule a tough preseason?
    Vs Rosemead 48-7 calling a massive beat down Rosemead only scores once the first team is off the field.

  25. Nickel and Dime's Gravatar Nickel and Dime
    September 27, 2017 - 9:17 am | Permalink

    Every year, roughly $750 BILLION is stolen from savers in this country by way of the central bank’s zero-interest policy. Politicians of every stripe are paid MILLIONS in bribes (sanitized by the label ‘campaign contributions’) so that the will of various business interests gets enacted into law. And ordinary people must pay dearly to afford a house, thanks to the Fed’s action of taking all the would-be repossessions off the market and selling those properties to super-rich cronies. In the midst of this, we’re supposed to shudder with indignation to know that ten grand here, or a hundred grand there, is being paid to athletes under the table for various business considerations.
    Yeah guys, that’s what I call going after the real crooks of our time.
    Speaking of crooks, the main reason college jocks are motivated to take these bribes in the first place is that the fat cats at the universities who are making big bucks off the labor of these athletes refuse to share any of it with the players. They call it “maintaining the purity of amateur sports”, but it still amounts to old rich guys reaming young poor guys.
    When I saw this college basketball scandal break, with all the zealous FBI guys swooping in to assert the might of the law, I wondered why those agents didn’t bother to make any arrests in the scandals of Wall Street. I guess if the crime exceeds a certain dollar amount, the perpetrators are immune from prosecution.

  26. D Robbins's Gravatar D Robbins
    September 27, 2017 - 8:42 am | Permalink

    @Really. Dude you’re on one. Arroyo isn’t scheduling down, when teams agree to play each other it is usually made the year before and sometimes comes with a two year deal. So most of these games were locked in when arroyo was still in D12. Also how are you going to say arroyo should be in D10 when Rancho Mirage, a team that could have won the championship game as well is still in D11 with arroyo? Arroyo didn’t completely blow out every single team where it was apparent that they didn’t belong in d12. Why did schurr, a team that is high rated and made Qtr finals, get to stay in d12? These divisions are made by playoff performance history. So since arroyo won a cif championship for the first time in 30 years you feel that they should be moved to D1? Get outta here with that stuff. If you’re a Rosemead fan, no need to hate. Your school is now a “hasbeen” program, you got to options, make it better or shut up and continue to stink.

  27. MVLer's Gravatar MVLer
    September 27, 2017 - 8:35 am | Permalink

    Arroyo gets to at least the semis they get moved up. Easy

  28. Really?'s Gravatar Really?
    September 27, 2017 - 7:55 am | Permalink

    Rosemead had a very difficult preseason. Arroyo ? They played only one team from their division(Covina) to get ready for the playoffs. Now that they are in league, they only have MVL teams all in divisions lower then they are. Rosemead Division 12, near the bottom and SEM top of Division 12. Arroyo should win by 4 scores, but probably not because of the history. Rosemead usually plays them tough. However, a win is a win. Is Arroyo’s scheduling down on purpose to stay in the lower divisions? They should have gone to division 10. If you look at division 10, they still make the playoffs and are rated higher than half of the teams in that division. Maybe not the top 8 teams, #1 Pacifica 86, #4 Gahr 121, #5 Valley View 166 #8 Arlington 283, # 10 Grand Terrace 326. Division 11 #2 Arroyo 185. Well Arroyo will still have their ways for at least another 2/12 years.

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