CIF SS Division 13 Poll
Thought this was interesting. How is Alhambra ranked ahead of El Monte?
1. Alhambra
2. Orange Vista
3. El Monte
4, Savanna
5. St. Bernard
6. Webb
7. Santa Ana Valley
8. Rosemead
9. Santa Clara
10. Adelanto
CIF SS Division 13 Poll
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* tone it DOWN a bit *
The more $$$$$$$$ CIF takes in the more $$$$$$$$$$ for pay increases and meal allowances. And lets not forget lawyers…
I mean, come on. It’s all about priorities.
IMHO CIF ( today ) is about as useful as gasoline at a forest fire.
And of coarse…your mileage may vary.
@ Bottom Line & Colt 74: I agree with both of you when it comes to the CIF Southern Section’s affinity for money.
Greed is not good; I believe it affects the judgment of the people who run that organization.
@ Anonymous: You’re welcome, man. Any time.
Be sure to turn out for the Temple City game on Friday night. The Moors will do everything they can to live up to their #1 ranking in Division 13.
Perhaps someday Alhambra will contend for the #1 spot in a somewhat higher division. That would be something to look forward to.
@Ron Vrooman,
I agree with the name calling, thanks for your support though and all you do at Alhambra.
They see your IP numbnuts
From T. Peterson: Schooled: Hahahahahahaha !
Why not girls football? Eliminate a girls sport and replace it with girls football in the spring.
The bottom line :
The more teams in a playoff the more gate money CIF takes in.
If there were money to be made in the deal, you can bet there would be 40 divisions. CIF stopped at 13 because that’s the point at which their product has become so watered-down as to inspire indifference.
That Oiler Nation guy has a lot of loose screws in his derrick. Better start posting his stuff or else.
@Oiler Nation,
Keep doing your thing! I seriously enjoy your posts. The writer’s may not like them because they may be offensive to some. But in this day and age you must have thick skin. I’ve been closely following these transfer situations and you have been on the money with it. I too agree that people should know what’s happening in our community’s. So keep plugging away but tone it done a bit…
From Duane B.: Seriously? Posting as a different screen name to give yourself props? You might want to consider some professional help!
@ Bottom Line again: There will never be 40 divisions in the CIF Southern Section. (Talk about hyperbole.) On the contrary, I believe there could be a move to realign the current divisions so that there would be more schools in the “better” divisions.
What’s ridiculous is allowing every team in Division 1 to make the playoffs regardless of how poor a team’s record might be. That’s something that should be changed.
@ Bottom Line: After World War II, the CIF football playoffs typically included second-place teams as well as league champions. That was certainly true of the 4A Division, to which Alhambra belonged in the 1960’s and ’70’s.
And, by the early 70’s, the CIF playoffs had room for an at-large team or two. Then, in around 1977, the playoffs were greatly expanded so that third-place teams have usually made it in.
Life is an act of drawing lines, and CIF has drawn the line at the lucky number 13. What would happen if the federation decided to have, say, 40 divisions? Would everyone come on here to insist that the ball being played in division 40 deserves to be spoken of in the same hushed tones as the rest? If not, where do YOU draw the line?
IN THE LAND OF THE BLIND THE ONE EYED MAN IS KING.
LISTENING TO ALL OF THE NEGATIVE TALK HERE IS REALLY STRANGE, RANKINGS WILL ONLY HAVE A TRUE PURPOSE WHEN PLAYOFFS AND SEEDING’S ARE DONE.
FOR NOW ITS GREAT TO SEE COACHES WORKING HARD AND KIDS STILL PLAYING THE GAME, AS FOR THE GUYS WHO SAY IT DOES’NT MATTER THAN WHY ARE YOU EVEN COMMENTING, WELL BECAUSE IT DOES MATTER.
STOP WITH THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS.
IF YOU ARE NOT CONCERNED THAN GO TO ANOTHER SITE, THIS SITE COVERS THESE AREAS AND THESE SCHOOLS, GO TO THE DIV ONE THRU THREE SITE SO YOU CAN BE WHERE YOU THINK IT MATTERS.
AND ON THAT NOTE, I APPLAUD C.I.F. FOR DIV 12 AND 13, I BELIEVE POSSIBLY INDIRECTLY THEY HAVE DESIGNED A DIVISION FOR HOME GROWN ONLY, AND ITS GREAT TO SEE ALHAMBRA RESIDENTS PLAYING IN ALHAMBRA AND ROSEMEAD RESIDENTS PLAYING IN ROSEMEAD, AND EL MONTE KIDS PLAYING AND BEING THE STARS IN EL MONTE.
FOR THE SMALL MINDED ONES DIVISION 13 HAS ALMOST 80 TEAMS, WOW THAT’S A LOT OF SCHOOLS TRYING TO BE RELEVANT IN THE FOOTBALL SCENE, THAT’S A GOOD THING.
AS FOR LOCAL SCHOOLS IN THAT DIVISION WELL HAVE’NT WE BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH IN THE PAST 20 YEARS, DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES, CONCUSSIONS, BAD FOOTBALL TALK, EVEN NFL STARS COMING DOWN ON THE GAME, C.I.F. CHANGING THE RULES EVERY YEAR, AMOUNT OF TIME WE CAN PRACTICE, PARENTS AND BOOSTERS COMING DOWN ON COACHES, COACHES STEALING MONEY, LITTLE LEAGUES BEING RAVAGED AND TORN APART BY ALL SORTS OF CRONIES, AND WHEN THE DUST SETTLES ALL THESE NITWITS ARE GONE LEAVING THE HOMEGROWN TALENT AND THE SCHOOLS TO TRY TO CLEAN UP THE MESS.
WELL I HOPE THAT’S THE CASE FOR ALL THE SCHOOLS IN THIS DIVISION AS FOR SOME OF THE SCHOOLS I’M READING WEIRD STUFF WHICH IS KIND OF OUT OF PLACE NO DISRESPECT AT THE CITY OR AT THE PLAYERS, BUT SOME OF THESE SCHOOLS I HAVE READ WENT OUT AND RECRUITED KIDS FROM OTHER REGIONS, OR I SHOULD SAY COACHES AND STAFFS HAVE RECRUITED KIDS, ACTUALLY I THINK THOSE ARE JUST RUMORS I CANT IMAGINE A GROWN MAN OF OVER 40 GOING AROUND POACHING KIDS FROM OTHER AREAS, ESPECIALLY IN A NON PRIVATE SCHOOL CONFERENCE AND LEAGUE.
MOST OF THESE SCHOOLS HAVE HAD REALLY GOOD HOME GROWN TALENT AND HAVE ALWAYS HAD TUFF PLAYERS, I HOPE THE KIDS IN THE CITY ARE THE STARS OF THEIR TEAMS IF NOT SHAME ON THE PROGRAM.
ACTUALLY DIV 12 AND 13 SHOULD BE FOR A NO TRANSFER SECTION, I KNOW THAT WOULD BE TOUGH TO DO BUT I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR COMMUNITIES AND FOR THE YOUTH OF THE CITIES.
FROM WHAT I READ THE MENTAL MIDGETS WHO ARE RUNNING AROUND RECRUITING ARE REALLY EMBARRASSING THEIR SCHOOLS AND PROGRAMS, AND IN MY OPINION ARE PISSING ON THE KIDS WHO REALLY LIVE IN THE AREA.
WELL WHAT DO I KNOW I,M ONLY 56 AND PLAYED POP WARNER IN THE SEVENTIES, COACHED FOR A LONG TIME AND PLAYED FOR ALONG TIME, BUT AT LEAST I HAVE BOTH EYES OPEN.
@ those that bash kids,
I guess if you are a college football player and do not play for Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, or any of the power 5 teams you’re not playing real college football… Kids that attend their proper schools don’t have a choice as to what division the school is in. These guys just want to play high school football. Stop the division bashing, it is what it is… Get over yourselves!!
Good football for the kids at those schools to play at. They know they can’t play at schools in higher divisions and probably were raised to stay where they are b/c of pride in their community or staying with their friends…instead of selling out like the kids who decided to go to say…..cathedral. Bad football for anyone in the higher divisions to play. Cathedral guy talks about how they were div 12 at some point….and no it wasn’t labeled that way,….until they started recruiting the athletic kid to their school, getting stellare coaches and upping their schedule…oh did I mention the athletic kids…that didn’t live near cathedral!! Alhambra doesn’t have that appeal. Are there some schools EM and Alhambra can beat in div 11 or 12? schurr there are….maybe even some really bad d 10 schools, but they aren’t playing them wk in and wk out. When they start doing that, they will see playing in d13 gives them a real shot at winning a league title and maybe even cif. Memories for all to be had. But bad football. Good luck winning the trophy though.
Is a kid any less proud of wearing a D13 championship ring than one from any other division?
The defense rests your honor.
Bottom line that is a horrible statement, and according to you those schools shouldn’t play football then!!!
@Duane and TP,
Why are you guys still no posting my stuff?
From Duane B: I gave you some advice previously that if you wanted your comments approved stick to promoting Montebello! WE ARE NOT WRITING A STORY JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY WE SHOULD! Get over it already! Your obsession with this stuff is really sad! Take all of your “facts” to the whittier daily, maybe you can get them to write a story!
Allow me to inform the readership that back in the sixties and seventies, CIF had only FOUR divisions, and a team had to WIN LEAGUE to make the playoffs. The current setup of 13 divisions exists for the sole reason of lining CIF’s pockets, not because anyone at the federation’s office feels there’s high-level ball being played in the lesser groupings. Anybody who believes a division 12 title puts their school on the sports map has been well and truly played by the money sharks in Los Alamitos.
@ SGV Fan: I also endorse everything you say, except for the name-calling toward people who disagree with our viewpoint. This is all about our young people, and the schools they attend and represent.
@ Bottom Line: Believe it or not, Alhambra High has won three CIF championships in football (in 1928, ’39, and ’46). The last time AHS appeared in a CIF final was in 1955, when the Moors lost to San Diego High.
Of course, all of that happened a long time ago. But, even now, the concept is not entirely foreign to us.
@Odyssey, that’s because we know girls’ softball and basketball is more relevant than football at St. Paul. It has been that way for more than a decade now. #stoplivinginthepast
Well said SGVFAN
Boy are there some dumb people on this blog: Who is gonna complain about a D13 team on a blog titled Div 13, if you don’t like these schools don’t comment. Not everyone is in the same divisions morons, these schools have had bad past seasons and are in a level playing field in CIF and actually have a shot to do something, granted you still have to qualify through your league. How excited those kids must be at Alhambra and El Monte to see their school name ranked highly in CIF. You morons commenting negatively here must have been serious scrubs when and where you played HS Ball. Congrats to all the teams recognized and continue to make your school and families proud
Let’s take this ranking to its logical conclusion and imagine Alhambra as a CIF champion. Does that ring true? The pollsters apparently say that as of this week, that’s where the Moors stand.
Which brings up an urgent question: should divisions 11-13 even be awarded a championship trophy? Doesn’t that cheapen the nature of this honor? In the same way that some teams don’t get into the playoffs, I feel these outer divisions shouldn’t be allowed into contention for a CIF crown. The message would be: get better, to where you can at least hang with the top 10 divisions, or you’ll be playing for some sort of participation trophy, NOT a CIF crown.
I wish Monrovia was division 13. We would clean up and win state.
Everybody has had to start somewhere, right? We’ll try to win each game as it comes.
why is there no talk regarding my alma mater St Paul (Div 5) or Amat (Div 1) everyone complaining about D13. I remember when those two schools would battle.
If your child plays in division 13 YES it most defiantly matters.
In Allen Iverson’s most famous tone:
“I mean, listen, we’re talking about [Div 13], not [Div 1, 2, or 3], not [4, 5, or 6], not [even 7, 8, or 9], we talking about Div 13.”
LOL!!!
Very Simple!! 2 Wins are Higher Ranked opponents than El Montes 2 wins. Lets not try to overthink it now!!
After two non-league games ???? Come on.
Good Luck to Alhambra and All Kids and Teams that play High School football. We at Cathedral have been there in D12 and know what lower level football is all about. It’s about the Kids and We all need to remember that. Not Everyone is a D1 Athlete.
Congrats to Alhambra at being Ranked #1. We at Cathedral have been in The same position. At one time Cathedral was in D12 and know what it is to be at The Bottom . Good Luck to All Teams regardless of what divisions you are
Does Division 13 matter? Yes, to the thousands of kids who play in it.
But making a poll of Division 13 is kind of funny. You might well have a team who is among the strongest teams in D13, but yet they will have a lousy record and won’t get anywhere near the playoffs because they happen to be stuck in a league with a lot of much better teams.
Alhambra Defense looks solid
@Dbls92
Same with Pioneer: Ranked #4 in D12 Week 0 and is now out of the Top 10 with wins over Southeast 39-0 and Ribet Academy 21-0 (game called at half by Ribet).
Total garbage
@Schurr?
You guys won’t make the playoffs either. Get it together..(deleted)
From Duane B.: Here is some advice! If you want any of your comments approved, stop the name calling and trying to incite arguments. Stick to promoting Montebello football!
Division 13…does it matter?
@ D13 Powerhouse: Hey, let’s all play our way out of Division 13. It’s time to make a move.
@ football outsider: The Alhambra football program has been struggling long enough; winning consistently again would be great for the school and the community. A lot of people around here would love to see that happen.
The rankings this year will be a joke… Its the BCS system now, too much influence from Maxpreps and/or calpreps… In Division 5 Colony was ranked 1 and is 2-0 and fell to 6 this week.. go figure! Most coaches know it only matters that your team is #1 after week 14.
Why are El Monte, Alhambra and Rosemead in D13 is the real question?
Mistakes happen
This is news to me as well. It’s nice, but the polls that count the most are the league standings and the overall win-loss records.
I guess defense does it. We can only hope this holds up; I suppose everybody will be out to get us now. This poll should give us a little extra motivation to continue winning.
El Monte is an offensive juggernaut, so I have to admit that I’m a little mystified by these rankings, too. Perhaps the voters were relying on those flawed MaxPreps algorithms.
CIF always seems to make it up as they go, has the criteria for rankings been explained? This is one
of those things that will get sorted out as the season progresses, unless the Moors keep winning then they’ll stay on top. Boy I know Vrooman would love that!
I think if both teams are 2-0 coaches vote/go off the Freeman ratings which has Alhambra slightly ahead.
Alhambra doesn’t even make the playoffs. 4th place in league will not get it done. Rosemead doesn’t make the playoffs. EM, Arroyo and South, in that order.
Neither one of these teams has played anyone! Wait for league, wouldn’t be surprised if Alhambra doesn’t get in the playoffs and El Monte goes as a 2nd place team.