Fanview: April 23, 2015

Oh, I've always been a Dick Enberg fan!

Oh, I’ve always been a Dick Enberg fan!

“(Football is) the last bastion of hope for toughness in America in men, in males.”—Michigan HC Jim Harbaugh

Kick it!

Right off the Top: The best thing about San Diego Padres baseball is Dick Enberg.

Breaking News: Matt Koffler, D.J. MacKinnon, Erick Escamilla, Jon Dimalante, Mike Mooney, and former Rio Hondo College HC Clint South have all joined the Buena Park coaching staff.


I love football…You probably love football…have you ever asked yourself why? I mean it has to be more than rooting for your favorite team doesn’t it?

I bring this up as a one time basketball player, I loved playing basketball and it was a natural place for me to gravitate to after getting smashed a few times while playing (quarterback) football.

For me a basketball game came down to putting the ball through the hoop. If I was having an off day shooting, I could make up for it on defense, being unselfish on offense, hitting the glass, and moving without the ball…But if my team didn’t have a good shooting night we’d lose. The touch of even the best of shooters can be a fickle thing.

In baseball I can hustle, I can play by all the fundamentals, field, throw, but the game would be decided by the fractions, the small incremental fractions of where the ball hits the bat. Those tenths/millimeters are the difference between a home run, pop out, or single.

Energy, passion, motivation are not deciding factors…But football is different. Football is execution and effort. Football is a game where brute strength and max effort can make a difference. In the next few weeks as spring practices kick up again were going to see tee shirts with team mottos printed on the backs…The one that will ring most true might be the one that says: “Hard Work Beats Talent”…

Why do you love football?


That’s what I love about football…We don’t really have them, at least I haven’t seen them, but what good is a cheerleader at a baseball game?

Have you considered my team the New York Mets? Baby I believe….I believe….


I’ve been writing this column since the last week of October,1998…And one thing I’ve never talked about is how I spent the decade of the 1980’s sneaking into Dodger Stadium with miscreants Peterson and Barker. I’ve always wanted to go into detail about it and all of the things that happened, but because a large part of our appeal is to students under 18 I’ve held off.

Then again…It was (gasp) 30 years ago…Wouldn’t they now just be funny stories? Or something inappropriate that could corrupt young people?

Tell me should I share these stories? Would you share yours? Please share yours…


In regards to Robert Downey Jr.’s walkout: A reporter can ask any question they want…And the one being asked can walkout any time they want.

In regards to Candela Fernandez: The Burbank cross country standout turns 17 today.

In regards to concussions in the NFL: I laugh when former NFL players take no responsibility for their own decisions in playing football, staying in the game, and then want someone else to compensate them for their choices.

In regards to Gevon Moore: He is no longer part of the Norwalk Lancers program but a member of…the La Mirada Matadores.

In regards to Madison Wheeler: If he is no longer at Bellflower, can someone please let us know where he landed?

The Dude abides…


Psalms 93:4

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15 Comments to "Fanview: April 23, 2015"

  1. NWO's Gravatar NWO
    April 27, 2015 - 12:19 pm | Permalink

    @fan Mission Valley Leagues fines PLAYERS or COACHES are at BP now?

  2. Pac 5 Scout's Gravatar Pac 5 Scout
    April 26, 2015 - 1:17 am | Permalink

    Regarding BP: Too many cooks can spoil the stew.

  3. fan's Gravatar fan
    April 25, 2015 - 8:15 pm | Permalink

    Mission Valley Leagues finest are now in Buena Park. Should look like a good season.

  4. FBFan's Gravatar FBFan
    April 25, 2015 - 5:03 pm | Permalink

    @Anonymous, How is Bonita stacked? They will be smaller and slower than last year. Glendora and Claremont are the teams to beat in the Palomares.Ayala has athletes and South Hills is bug. Bonita will beat Diamond Bar and that’s it. I also saw San Dimas recently and they are big up front with some athletes to give the ball to. SD will get the smudge pot back under Holman. Bonita’s run was nice last year but it will be a long time before that happens again. They got some tough kids and I give them respect but it’s not enough to compete with the big boys in their league.

  5. dogs's Gravatar dogs
    April 25, 2015 - 4:52 pm | Permalink

    @Joe t how u going to compare mt.sac to elac citrus and pcc. Mt.sac has a fan base.

    From Joe T.: I didn’t…I mentioned talent disparity between teams like Mt. Sac (example) and Citrus (example) as reasons these schools never play…but I think for all the JCs involved it would be good to have rivalries to generate interest…Mt.Sac is unto itself, no argument there.

  6. Oso Viejo's Gravatar Oso Viejo
    April 25, 2015 - 9:17 am | Permalink

    Grimy, Old Roadrunners have been asking the same thing for years.
    Short answer:
    Community College Football is a big money drain and running a program when you can only sell a few hundred tickets a week is hard.

    Long answer:
    1. Football just doesn’t fit. The demographics of the areas are way different than they were even 15 years ago, certainly 40 years ago when Marty Blackstone was winning all of those titles. More importantly, the Trustees and President who run the school, with one exception, are lifelong bureaucrats reflecting pretty accurately the demographics of the surrounding communities.

    2. Women’s sports take up more of the budget and have more paid coaches. Men sports have more participants which reflect the 46% – 54% female – male student enrollment. (Maybe someone will ask Ms. Dreyfuss why that is.)

    The bubble and bounce back guys end up playing for Jastrab and Pappy Mazzotta now and frankly, there just isn’t enough talent locally to field another team at that level. All things considered, football at Rio would probably be even worse than at Citrus even if they could find a way to fund it. Besides, they still have no stadium and walking up that hill to the locker room in the summer sucked. Probably still does.

    From Joe T.: No disagreement here…I’ve always thought JC football was a bit like the wild west in these parts…talent disparity is obvious and then its never a given that these teams MT.Sac, Citrus, ELAC, PCC, and Rio Hondo…way back when…would even play each other…If there was some kind of structure to help build and create rivalries I believe it would generate interest. Also the NCAA should add a third year of playing eligibility at the JC level, which would not include the “gray shirt” season…More familiarity might draw more interest among the fans…players are given a chance to mature and learn the game…Coaches might like that they have an extra season to teach and build a player up…It makes sense to me, but I’m sure there is something I’m missing.

  7. Grimy's Gravatar Grimy
    April 25, 2015 - 12:31 am | Permalink

    Why doesn’t Rio Hondo College have a football team anymore?? Shoot I wouldn’t mind playing again… A lot of athletes over here.

  8. Oso Viejo's Gravatar Oso Viejo
    April 24, 2015 - 8:15 pm | Permalink

    Maybe I DID miss a couple years of Rose Hills High history there; my recollection was that South left about 1977. Last I heard, (maybe two years ago), Coach South was living near Helendale in the High Desert, still staying in touch with a few of his former players some of whom had thrown him a birthday bash.

    And btw, Joe, you’re just a kid, my bylines in El Paisano, (all features, no sports), were about 15 years before you. 😉

    From Joe T.: I yield to your seniority. 🙂 I didn’t get to know South very well, what is is history? Did he coach prep football and move up to JC? I have it in my head he went to UCLA and played for their national championship team back in the 1950s but I’m not sure that fits the timeline.

  9. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    April 24, 2015 - 7:54 pm | Permalink

    That may be true, but either way. They’ve made billions off the back of these players and it’s their greed that cause these lawsuits. All the original players wanted was medical help, the NFL refused to help. Therefore, the lawsuits. It’s really sad how some of the old time players were treated…

  10. Oso Viejo's Gravatar Oso Viejo
    April 24, 2015 - 6:16 pm | Permalink

    LOL on your ‘additions’ to Coach White’s staff but I do have a correction: Clint South probably step in a coach right now somewhere as he is probably more vigorous than either of us but he was never a Roadrunner HC. Marty Blackstone had the glory years and then Prukop had the war story years.

    For the youngin’s at home scratching their heads, Blackstone was the Bob Jastrab of the 70’s.

    From Joe T.: I was at Rio Hondo in 1987 and Clint South was the HC that year. Miguel Padilla and Daniel Pico were the wide receivers…James Crumsey was the tailback…Mike Sheldon a cornerback…and Eric Rubalcava (Schurr alum) was the quarterback…I heard he got a scholarship to Sonoma State back in the days when they were still the Cossacks…But yeah, South was the HC…I interviewed for the El Paisano.

  11. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    April 24, 2015 - 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Bonita is stacked!!!

  12. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    April 24, 2015 - 3:32 pm | Permalink

    I do think, a new thinking has started for the new age athlete. We are seeing it right now with all the early retirements. But back in the day the information was not what it is today and the fact is the NFL hid a lot of it for years. I’m sure a lot of players would still take all the risks, but having the knowledge that it could be very harmful helps. And I think you have to save the athlete from himself sometimes. I do it all the time with my players, and glad they still want to battle. Legislation has to be there also. I love football, I don’t think it’s going away.

    From Joe T.: I struggle with the idea that the NFL had the information and tucked it away…I believe what really happened is the technology has now become so advanced we know things now that we didn’t know before. I’m skeptical whenever lawyers get involved.

  13. Legendary Voice's Gravatar Legendary Voice
    April 24, 2015 - 10:46 am | Permalink

    Dick Enberg is da man! Along with Al Michaels, he’s the greatest play-by-play football announcer of all time. He was a master at dramatizing the narrative of a game. Great memories.

  14. Really's Gravatar Really
    April 24, 2015 - 9:35 am | Permalink

    A question for you Joe How do you think the 19 hour rule will effect the local teams. I know it is effecting Concord De La is one of their starters class schedule for next year.

    0 Period– weight training
    1 Period– Math/Calculus Football Problem Solving
    2 Period– English/ Football Story Writing
    3 Period– History of High School Football
    4 Period– Guided Football Studies
    5 Period– Football Economics
    6 Period– Football Theory
    7 Period– PE Football

    They now have more hours for football then ever before! LMAO!

    From Joe T.: First I was like, why are you asking me…then I read it. Very funny…They are offering an AP class in “The History of The CFL Quarterback”…

  15. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    April 23, 2015 - 8:03 pm | Permalink

    Joe, I love your work but….In regards to concussions, it’s easy to put it on players. But if you lose your job or get labeled as not being tough you’d think twice about taking yourself out of a game. Much like porn stars wanting condoms to be maditory, ignorance says they chose that lifestyle. But the truth is, they need it to be legislated to enforce the rule, or they will get black balled and Be out of work. Unless you’ve played at that level you will never understand.

    From Joe T.: I’ll dance with you a little bit on this, but why did Junior Seau play 20 seasons? Did he really need the money or was it more of the case where we make so much money we’re able to put people around us who will never say “NO”…We all have to have somebody in our lives to tell us “NO”…I think at the professional level a rethinking or a new thinking has to be drilled into the athlete…Pro Football is a season in your life, but not your life. Unfortunately, for far too many, it is viewed as life….Thank you for the click and the complement, and maybe we’re not so far off in our thinking…Have a great weekend.

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