48 Comments to "Team AirRaid at Schurr Saturday"

  1. He Hate Me's Gravatar He Hate Me
    December 19, 2017 - 2:08 pm | Permalink

    @Disappointed Dad – Nothing wrong with bringing in competition.

    What will you tell your son if he decides to play at the next level?

    What will you do when he has to find a career? Tell him not to go into a competitive field because he may find competition.

    Come on now!! Competition makes us better. What’s wrong with challenging your kids? What’s wrong with trying to build a better program.

    Michael Jordan once said “You have competition every day because you set such high standards for yourself that you have to go out every day and live up to that.”

  2. TheRanch18's Gravatar TheRanch18
    December 15, 2017 - 11:58 am | Permalink

    WOW!!! such negativity from everyone!!!
    recruiting or not!!! no one is breaking any rules! if your complaining about this then maybe get your A$$ out and do something for the youth!!!! and this is coming from A RANCH GUY who hates others always stealing kids away from pico….. THIS IS SMART!!!!!! i applaud COACH E AND O and thank them bc this weekend and every other MY boy will be there putting in work…. again , any schools want to bash… HOST YOUR OWN FREE CAMP!!! KEEP YOUR YOUTH TOGETHER…
    other than that… sit back and keep waiting for that pot of gold to land on your lap… lol …

    DELETED EL RANCHO BETTER BE TAKING NOTES!!!! ive been saying this for years, im glad coach E is putting in the work to make it happen… ill say it again and again… schurr is too dayum lucky to have him.

  3. Go Wild's Gravatar Go Wild
    December 13, 2017 - 4:14 pm | Permalink

    I’m in favor of unlimited recruiting tactics and unlimited transfers, even going so far as to transfer between teams at halftime, if junior can be driven to the other game site fast enough to do the second half for a squad that’s having a better night. See, we’re dealing with what you call a marketplace, and all the rules in the world won’t stop a determined parent/player from bouncing around anywhere they please. Let’s allow these guys to change places like Ping-Pong balls and see if they’re better off for the effort. Why be afraid of freedom?

  4. Ron Vrooman, AHS stat man's Gravatar Ron Vrooman, AHS stat man
    December 10, 2017 - 2:42 pm | Permalink

    @ Three Blind Mice: You’re right on the mark.
    For years, the CIF Southern Section has been way too permissive on student-athlete transfers. (The Kurt Scoby case probably has been the most glaring example.)
    There needs to be a crackdown on all forms of tampering and illegal recruiting.
    I recognize the possibility that it might never happen, because the shady operators seem to have too much influence with the rule enforcers.
    Could it be that illegal or unethical recruiting practices are OK as long as the individuals involved produce revenue for the CIF? There have to be some compelling reasons as to why this stuff has been permitted to continue for such a long time.

  5. The Fan's Gravatar The Fan
    December 10, 2017 - 7:00 am | Permalink

    @spartan nation- great turn out yesterday! A lot of kids showed up from everywhere, it was well run an organized and coached! Good job to all the coaches and everyone at schurr who helped and supported the camp and kids. Talking to other parents, their kids loved it! …GOOD JOB SPARTANS!

    December 10, 2017 - 3:40 am | Permalink


    91 comments awesome there are still some football men out there in this valley all hope is not lost, as for a guy called Apache Joe, grow up little one.

    And if bringing up insurance is having a bad outlook on life than you are a child, have you ever had to deal with a junior in high school who injured himself in a passing league game and lost his senior year. Why run the extra risk you SAP.

    Or did you ever illegally recruit a kid to your school and then have him get caught and have his senior year lost while you went on coaching like nothing happened. and then moved on like you were a saint.

    Your either a fool or a man with no life experience, high schools do so much work to get these guys cleared and to get all players insured its unreal the amount of paperwork and insurance and liabilities that are involved you are a boy in this world, IM VERY SURE YOU CANT GET CLEARED OR WERE NEVER ASKED, if you are a coach then shame on you for being so foolish.

    Stop holding these guys sacks and let them speak for themselves. If you advertise for a free camp with players or on any blog at least take responsibility for your actions and the injuries that may arise.

    No issues with guys moving on to wherever they want. but I feel if you recruit a kid and then him and his parent come forward after the fact that you were involved, then your worthless a&& should be done. for good , hows that super chief.

    Dont play nice guy when your really the wolf, just take care of your S##T and stop trying to steal kids.

    If these guys would spend the same amount of time getting their teams ready they would not need to have camps in December.


  7. Apache Joe's Gravatar Apache Joe
    December 10, 2017 - 3:24 am | Permalink

    @real spartan

    I hope coach Elias doesn’t have to deal with you on a regular, do you even know what you’re talking about!?!?
    You know this isn’t his first gig right? He was an OC at Arcadia for 5 years and a DC for 1 before moving on to BP! Get a clue! I stated before that Schurr is lucky to have him. But if you’re a real spartan I feel bad for what he has to deal with over there!

  8. Sgv Insider's Gravatar Sgv Insider
    December 9, 2017 - 8:07 pm | Permalink

    Evidently he can’t elevate it past the 2nd round !!!! Lol!!! Better luck next year…

  9. Real Spartan's Gravatar Real Spartan
    December 9, 2017 - 6:33 pm | Permalink

    Yeah he was also a first year play caller that had athletes all over the field and choked in div 12. Good coach yes he probly is but qb guru slow down. Should get him to tutor #5 so he can graduate

  10. Sparta's Gravatar Sparta
    December 9, 2017 - 6:14 pm | Permalink


    Who’s paying!? This camp is free with a qb coach who knows how to elevate qb play! I’ve seen first hand what Elias has been able to do with the QBs. We have our SGV qb guru and he’s free! Boom

  11. Snowflake you are's Gravatar Snowflake you are
    December 9, 2017 - 2:18 pm | Permalink

    The reason we have this passion is we are getting away from politics.

  12. Gordon Gekko's Gravatar Gordon Gekko
    December 9, 2017 - 1:12 am | Permalink

    Totally agree with your statement – college coaches don’t care about 7on7, period. – They only care about ability, grades and film. Save your money for your kids Christmas gifts, tutoring and/or retirement. It’s all a scam. A kid can improve with these workouts but it’s NOT a platform to jump into a scholarship or get recognition from college coaches. The local qb gurus will promote them but they prey on parents dreams for their kids. There are some good, reputable qb gurus or trainers out there but they’re hard to find. And yes these venues are used for recruiting or at least the hosting school and their coaches will try to recruit. Some gurus recruit for high schools too. All the 7on7 outfits are profit driven which is fine but DON’T THINK YOU’LL GET A SCHOLARSHIP FROM THE EXPERIENCE.
    Don’t believe the hype. Do your research.
    Good luck parent and kids.

  13. Desert Rat's Gravatar Desert Rat
    December 8, 2017 - 9:33 am | Permalink

    Its called multitasking 2 pennies…

  14. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    December 8, 2017 - 12:11 am | Permalink

    Isn’t the winter sports transfer deadline coming up? 31st of dec or Jan 19?

  15. My Two Cents's Gravatar My Two Cents
    December 7, 2017 - 11:31 pm | Permalink

    If some of you would show the same passion about what’s going on in our country as much as you care about a free football camp, maybe we would have a better POTUS.

  16. Desert Rat's Gravatar Desert Rat
    December 7, 2017 - 9:12 pm | Permalink

    Its December 9th…the state finals are a week away. Get a life!! If you believe these frauds….you get what you PAY for. Take your kids to Disneyland, not the circus.

  17. In Conclusion's Gravatar In Conclusion
    December 7, 2017 - 7:09 pm | Permalink

    Scheduling this type of thing for early December is obviously a stunt, designed to get attention and also a leg-up on the competition. Next year, maybe the Spartans will take it to the next level by starting at midnight, just hours after the last CIF title game finishes.

  18. The Truth's Gravatar The Truth
    December 7, 2017 - 6:53 pm | Permalink

    Bottom line, this is 100% recruiting tactic. If it wasn’t a way of getting n recruiting kids they wouldn’t do it. But who cares, parents take your kids there if you want. It’s a free camp for all, why not take advantage of it. But don’t believe all the lies/sales pitches about how much they’ll help you with college and win championships etc. Nothing wrong with midvalley posting this flyer, everyone needs to relax.

  19. Lol's Gravatar Lol
    December 7, 2017 - 12:51 pm | Permalink

    I am his legal guardian DELETED..

  20. Sparta's Gravatar Sparta
    December 7, 2017 - 11:43 am | Permalink

    Baha he’s your nephew and you allow him to be courted. Are you his daddy? Why the heck is he even in the situation to be courted by another team. No one is doin anything for any player to come over. Keep the hate coming

  21. The Issue's Gravatar The Issue
    December 7, 2017 - 11:41 am | Permalink

    Hey maybe these guys should charge 200$ and added camp fees. Then everyone would bash them for charging and question their integrity by charging kids to come out and get better. I applaud these men for making an effort and if their intentions are to attract kids then so be it. Privates schools thrive of doing so. Wish more schools offered camps to the athletes in the area.

  22. Lol's Gravatar Lol
    December 7, 2017 - 11:25 am | Permalink

    Like we haven’t seen a couple of these coaches blatantly recruiting on social media now we want to act like there is nothing wrong with these types of camps at all.. my nephew plays for a local school, hes openly being “courted” but nope no chance in hell. He’s staying at his local school whether they go 1-9 or 10-0..

  23. Captain's Gravatar Captain
    December 7, 2017 - 11:13 am | Permalink

    Nothing is free in this world, nothing.

  24. Apache Joe's Gravatar Apache Joe
    December 7, 2017 - 11:08 am | Permalink

    @three blind mice
    You really have a negative outlook on life. People have different means of helping, yes these men don’t use their time to feed the need, or maybe they do that do! You don’t know that, I’m sure they do that too. This is THEIR PLATFORM! And yeah it’s a free camp so tip these coaches… you don’t except freebee cuz your too prideful! Ha no free bees in hard work. The payment for these type of coaches is in the THANK YOU COACH they get everywhere they go. As I recall these men spent the majority of their time in one stop and yes they have been to a few different spots in the last years but TELL ME HOW MANY DIFFERENT JOBS HAVE YOU BEEN AT???!! Exactly!! Prob 10! Don’t judge these guys in their choice of job locations and taking a coaching job.

    “LASTLY” they guys are probably teaching the fundamentals so THEY aren’t teaching kids other schemes and plays. Showing your little Bobby and Billy how to located a ball, throw a ball, high point a ball… but then again that was prob not what your HS coach did for them!

    Remember this is optional so you don’t have to take your kids to their camp these camps are for kids who are interested in extra work or maybe just want to hang out and stay in shape.

  25. Almont Viejo's Gravatar Almont Viejo
    December 7, 2017 - 10:55 am | Permalink

    @three blind mice

  26. Lavar Ball's Gravatar Lavar Ball
    December 7, 2017 - 10:28 am | Permalink

    All publicity, is good publicity. Can blame the Schurr guys for trying

  27. Disappointed Dad's Gravatar Disappointed Dad
    December 7, 2017 - 7:57 am | Permalink

    Well said THREE BLIND MICE!

  28. Pac 5 Scout's Gravatar Pac 5 Scout
    December 7, 2017 - 7:41 am | Permalink

    @MTC: Basement? Where are you posting from North Dakota?

    December 7, 2017 - 6:26 am | Permalink

    IN THE LAND OF THE BLIND THE ONE EYED MAN IS KING, any man who believes there is such a thing as a free lunch is a fool and gets what he deserves.

    Any man who takes his kid to a camp and doesn’t pay is either poor or a charity case or cheap. I always leave a tip when service is good, I did not believe in taking my children to free bees, I was raised to value a mans time and his work, my family doesn’t need a free meal.

    And yes there are kids with no dads and no money but chances are they are not reading and they are not commenting on this blog, now real giving back would be the coaches putting in money for free shirts or cases of gatorade or having rides for all the kids with no dads who need rides, or the real issue getting some of these boys some real tutoring help right now in December.

    And finally what coach needs to give back to a community, I don’t get it, there are homeless camps, with all types of issues that are a blight on the community that need help with family contacts, hygiene, places to sleep, there are shelters that need assistants, there are old folks homes where no one visits, there are cancer hospitals that need help with visits and donations actually I can list a hundred ways to give back to a community.

    And you know what many coaches do those things and not say a word to anyone, they dont post it on a blog.

    And for the N*T SUCKERS WHO KEEP SAYING HOW GREAT THESE COACHES ARE, GIVE IT A REST. great is getting to the finals sometimes and possibly winning once in a while great is staying someplace more than two or three years, great is letting your players and former players recruit for you. Hard working or passionate yes buy great coaches ? maybe in your mind.

    And finally what if your kid is taught something different at this charity event than what his own coach believes ?, and lastly your own school should and most likely does do a back round check on all coaches, and i wonder who is doing the back round checks for these so called community events and giving back to the communities deals, many cant get cleared to coach in a district that’s why its so hard for some guys to get on a staff in high school, maybe the guys are all cleared, maybe that would be great.

    Advertising for an event takes insurance and liability, that’s why I know this blog has done its homework on this charity event, could that possibly be the REASON why its FREE because you are assuming the risk and liability for your own kid. And to all you saints and community organizers it is cold now in the mornings and stretching both pre and post work out is essential to prevent injury and many kids I mean many end off tweaking tearing or popping something this late in the cold time of year just coming off a long season. Hopefully your insurance is in order, not to worry Schurr is handling the insurance in case anyone is hurt ? that’s why most camps charge for liability coverage.


  30. My Two Cents's Gravatar My Two Cents
    December 6, 2017 - 11:49 pm | Permalink

    @Capitan, and believe me when I tell you. My basement is bigger than both yours and SGV Insiders houses combined!

  31. Just spell my name right's Gravatar Just spell my name right
    December 6, 2017 - 10:24 pm | Permalink

    Even if they feel a twinge of regret, and a fair bit of annoyance (whether at the negativity, or at the fact that their true intentions are so transparent), I’m sure that at the end of the day they will appreciate the attention.

    “There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.”

  32. Captain's Gravatar Captain
    December 6, 2017 - 9:26 pm | Permalink

    @ my two cents… believe me when I tell you this, you’d carry my jock strap in real life.

  33. HTCS's Gravatar HTCS
    December 6, 2017 - 6:41 pm | Permalink

    With all the negative comments (even if they are just opinion) I wonder if the organizers of this camp appreciate or regret MVS covering it.

  34. Sgv Insider's Gravatar Sgv Insider
    December 6, 2017 - 4:53 pm | Permalink

    So how are those predictions working out ? You know, Stanford beating SC. What a joke you are !!!! You are about as clueless as they come. Do us all a favor. Crawl back under that rock you came from before you get stepped on. Oh, and you may be a grown up. But your still an a**clown.

  35. Apache Joe's Gravatar Apache Joe
    December 6, 2017 - 2:14 pm | Permalink

    I know coach Elias well and I know he isn’t shady or affiliates with anything along those lines so jude is solid in my books! These coaches are some of the brightest minds in the area and some of the best coaches to bring out the best in young men! Keep up the selfless work guys! No Apaches down

  36. My Two Cents's Gravatar My Two Cents
    December 6, 2017 - 12:43 pm | Permalink

    @Capitan, you sound like someone who carried his jock strap back in the days.

  37. Captain's Gravatar Captain
    December 6, 2017 - 11:32 am | Permalink

    From someone who knows… Jude Olivia is shady AF. He pimps the Mid/high school nerds who kissed the jocks butt back in the day.

  38. The Big Bad Wolf's Gravatar The Big Bad Wolf
    December 6, 2017 - 10:56 am | Permalink

    You and your staff do it a great job and please continue. I understand its the job of the CIF to police these camps and to find out any wrong doing. On the same note it’s yours and your staff to write report and inform of past sporting events which i mentioned you guys do an A+ job. I was responding on the way Tim was defending the camp. I know Tim is not on any football staff so he doesn’t know what are the true intention of any particular staff.

  39. NWO's Gravatar NWO
    December 6, 2017 - 10:17 am | Permalink

    I’ve seen “INVINCIBLE” a few times. I think I can hang at this camp.

  40. Wowsir's Gravatar Wowsir
    December 5, 2017 - 11:13 pm | Permalink

    When I mention about talking to the coaches, I mean about “how you hate whats going on” “the recruiting” “the free camp” not about their coaching career. So if you dont like it, go talk about it. Be a man!
    Then you can tell all the kids including my son at the camp to go home while your add it. Be the hero! Lol

  41. Graveyard's Gravatar Graveyard
    December 5, 2017 - 10:02 pm | Permalink

    @Anonymous I’m not sure what big boy table you are referring to? Please enlighten me. The Almont table ?? HAHAHA

  42. My Two Cents's Gravatar My Two Cents
    December 5, 2017 - 9:58 pm | Permalink

    @SGV Insider, adults are talking. What are you doing back again? Crawl back to your kiddie table, time for a diaper change.

  43. Stelios SHS's Gravatar Stelios SHS
    December 5, 2017 - 7:59 pm | Permalink

    SGV insider
    you sound like a montebello oiler or BG guy! keep the hate coming. we welcome it with open arms, why you ask?! hate comes from envy and you my man are so envious of the direction the program is going for schurr! being a great coach has much more to do with the type of role model you are and how you treat the players in your program. the help you do for the players in their growth as a young man. you lack that SGV insider… these coaches are loved by all their players and you hate it! hahah keep the hate

  44. Sgv Insider's Gravatar Sgv Insider
    December 5, 2017 - 6:53 pm | Permalink

    Talk to them and learn what ? How to lose a 2nd round game on the road. Or maybe how to underachieve with the best team they’ve had in awhile. Or maybe how not to prepare your kids for a long bus ride and let them get distracted from all the festivities. Either way, nothing to learn there.

  45. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    December 5, 2017 - 5:22 pm | Permalink

    @ Graveyard , their goes cathedral people always trying to put themselves in a discussion that they are not even mentioned. It’s like the little kid at the end of the table trying to get attention from the big boy table.

  46. Wowsir's Gravatar Wowsir
    December 5, 2017 - 5:08 pm | Permalink

    Damn! Alot of you on here must be coaches!
    All the hate towards this. Work with your own kids so they dont go somewhere else. If not, you cant say jack! Go to the camp with your kid or if you don’t have a kid still go to the camp and talk to these coaches.

  47. annoymous's Gravatar annoymous
    December 5, 2017 - 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Big Deal Most School’s have Camps. Bishop Amat.St. Paul, Mater Dei, St. John Bosco, and about One Thousand school’s have Camps. Good Luck to Schurr and Schools that are just trying.

  48. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    December 5, 2017 - 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Coach E And Coach O
    Please go spend time with your families. 12 months away from your families is it worth it?

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