The Peterson Principle: 4/6/2015

Tim Peterson

Tim Peterson

By Tim Peterson

I’m still waiting for word out of Norwalk. There has been no announcement on who will replace Jesse Ceniceros who stepped down to take the head coaching job at Chino.

Rumors were circulating soon after Ceniceros left that Dean Gray, who preceded Ceniceros would return to the sidelines. Gray last coached the Lancers in 2007 and is still at the school. Gray’s last game was a 40-0 loss to Charter Oak in the first round of the playoffs. If Gray does come back as the head coach it wouldn’t be unprecedented. In recent years Matt Koffler left and returned to Rosemead and Keith Jones stepped down at San Gabriel only to return a year later.

If Gray does return he’ll have some talent to work with. Quarterback Auscencio Navarro (497 yards, 6 touchdowns passing), and running backs Chris Walker (918 yards) and Gevon Moore (315 yards) are all back in the fold. Also there is the motivation factor. The Lancers are still stinging from last year’s first round playoff loss to Paramount. Isn’t there another Penny on the way?

My gut feeling is that if Gray was the guy he would have been named already. Stay tuned.

Baldwin Park is still open. Who’s my candidate? Wardell Crutchfield of course. He a had a lot of success as the HC at Duarte and he has ties to BP. He was on James Heggins’ staff as an assistant. Will it happen? “No,” Crutchfield said quickly dismissing the notion. Okay then who? Heggins?

Since we’re on the subject of coaches returning how about Brandon Rohrer reuniting with La Puente? Rohrer left on good terms for the opportunity at Etiwanda. That didn’t work out as planned. He enjoyed his run there and when Scott Morrison went to Corona Santiago the Athletic Director position opened up as well. Sounds like a perfect fit. What do you say coach?

Arroyo will start throwing with other schools on April 18. Impressive turnout last Saturday for the Knights. On a Saturday in April, the day before Easter, Arroyo had 50 kids out for practice. Does Arroyo Coach Jim Singiser feel any sense of urgency or pressure in 2015 after missing the playoffs last year?

“Not any more than any other year. We come out here every year with the same goal in mind – to win and make the playoffs. But this team has been really been fun to coach so far,” Singiser said.

Question. Who’s the quarterback? The early front runner is Humberto Pantoja. He took most of the snaps Saturday and was Chaz Miller’s backup last year.

Gabrielino and Mt. View are also looking for starting quarterbacks in 2015. The best QB in the MVL? Rosemead and El Monte fans will haggle over this one. Steven Nava returns for the Panthers while Edward Dominguez will be back behind center for the Lions. Let the debate begin.

That’s my principle.

Tim can be reached at or follow him on twitter @tspeterson40

44 Comments to "The Peterson Principle: 4/6/2015"

  1. shut your mouth's Gravatar shut your mouth
    April 30, 2015 - 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Downey players got d1 offers. Shut your mouth you idiot

  2. LB's Gravatar LB
    April 22, 2015 - 11:21 pm | Permalink

    You are a dope!

  3. Poor LB Dad's Gravatar Poor LB Dad
    April 22, 2015 - 10:35 am | Permalink


  4. @SMH's Gravatar @SMH
    April 22, 2015 - 10:10 am | Permalink

    Yes Vigilant is transferring. He is transferring his 2nd period class to 5th period. He hates science in the morning

  5. smh's Gravatar smh
    April 22, 2015 - 7:11 am | Permalink

    They say Vigilant is checking out of downey

  6. @poor LB dad's Gravatar @poor LB dad
    April 21, 2015 - 9:00 pm | Permalink

    look in the mirror and dont act surprize when you see donkey ears

  7. @Poor LB Dad's Gravatar @Poor LB Dad
    April 21, 2015 - 8:23 pm | Permalink

    Told you you couldn’t handle the truth. NO, only Downey lied. Everyone else were honest.

  8. @Lol's Gravatar @Lol
    April 21, 2015 - 8:21 pm | Permalink

    Name the 22 schools, Jackass!

  9. @Poor LB Dad's Gravatar @Poor LB Dad
    April 21, 2015 - 7:12 pm | Permalink

    so who lied to you to go to los altos and who lied to you to leave? seems like you get lied to a lot huh. did la mirada lie to you to get you to their school? Is huntington beach in your ear lying to you? lol

  10. Lol's Gravatar Lol
    April 21, 2015 - 7:11 pm | Permalink

    Poly was his freshman year dude there were 22 other schools before he got to Downey. Get your facts correct

  11. @Poor LB Dad's Gravatar @Poor LB Dad
    April 21, 2015 - 7:04 pm | Permalink

    You can’t handle the truth. Downey coaches criticizes every athlete that transfers yet your school recruits like a private. The kid left LB Poly to come to Downey because he was lied to by Downey coaches. Just like the way they lied to the other transfers who left the school in the previous year.

  12. Poor LB Dad's Gravatar Poor LB Dad
    April 21, 2015 - 2:30 pm | Permalink

    No answer to why you left lb poly or los altos? I mean since all you want is a scholly right? Instead you right the same old stuff “no rings no scholarships” hahahaha. Try answering the question. Did i strike a nerve?

  13. The Boogie Man's Gravatar The Boogie Man
    April 21, 2015 - 9:32 am | Permalink

    @The Boogie Mam
    April 20, 2015 – 8:02 pm | Permalink

    Get a life. No one cares about your comments. If Downey knows college recruiting the players would have lots of schollies. Case closed!

    You apparently care enough to respond.
    I’ll say it again very slowly for you because you have demonstrated once again that you lack the comprehension skills necessary to understand what I posted. DOWNEY DOES NOT GIVE OUT SCHOLARSHIPS. COLLEGE COACHES DO. If you have the ability to play at the next level then a college will find you. Just because a player was good or even great at the HS school level does not mean that their game will translate to the next level. College coaches determine that. Not HS coaches.

    Do you understand that?

  14. Downey Viking's Gravatar Downey Viking
    April 21, 2015 - 9:16 am | Permalink

    WE GOT ROBBED! Where are our schollies? First the refs now its the colleges fault.

  15. @The Boogie Mam's Gravatar @The Boogie Mam
    April 20, 2015 - 8:02 pm | Permalink

    Get a life. No one cares about your comments. If Downey knows college recruiting the players would have lots of schollies. Case closed!

  16. Wong's Gravatar Wong
    April 20, 2015 - 7:08 pm | Permalink

    I toll you my sun have schollie before we go to BP. no body save me nothing none of you business any way we happy now, leave my sun name out of it

  17. @Poor LB Dad's Gravatar @Poor LB Dad
    April 20, 2015 - 5:59 pm | Permalink

    that is a pretty good question lb dad. if you wanted a scholarship, why did you transfer your son out of LB Poly and Los Altos since they get so many kids scholarships? Dam this kid has transferred to 4 schools in 4 years? WOW

  18. The Boogie Man's Gravatar The Boogie Man
    April 20, 2015 - 5:25 pm | Permalink

    Apparently you have reading comprehension issues because in my post I just told you that college coaches offer scholarships just because you played for four years at a high school does not make you 100% guaranteed to get a scholarship. Once again you lack the general knowledge of recruiting and you just displayed it with your post. Thank you now go away

  19. The Boogie Man's Gravatar The Boogie Man
    April 20, 2015 - 5:23 pm | Permalink

    At least I am smart enough to know the difference between your and you’re. Have a good day

  20. Poor LB Dad's Gravatar Poor LB Dad
    April 20, 2015 - 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Downey had 2 players receive scholarships this past year. 1 offensive lineman and 1 wr/db. as far as no ring…we have been to 2 championship games the last 3 years and we have a ring on our finger to show for it. Why didn’t you keep your son at lb poly since coach raul gets his kids scholies. or how about at los altos…they get a lot of scholies? now you left downey and you’re at la mirada looking to go to huntington beach? dam bro hahahahahaha. so why didn’t you stay at lb poly or los altos?

  21. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    April 20, 2015 - 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Boogie man and anyone associated with Downey, stop replying to this clown. The guy can bearly spell and put sentences together and you want him to understand how colleges recruit??? This topic is about 50 digits about his level of comprehension, please leave this guy alone for he doesn’t not know what he says ….

  22. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    April 20, 2015 - 5:08 pm | Permalink

    Guess the village idiot is back. lol

  23. @the boogie man's Gravatar @the boogie man
    April 20, 2015 - 3:30 pm | Permalink

    just cause your a loser don’t make your son a loser let him make his choices he is smarter than you.

  24. @The Boogie Man's Gravatar @The Boogie Man
    April 20, 2015 - 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Crawl back to the Stone Age where you belong. You are too late to this party just like you are two decades behind with your comment about recruiting. If another school is able to get a scholarship for a player who has never played a down for them and Downey can’t get any scholarship for all the good players that has sacrificed for the program for four years, than it’s loud and clear what a player can expect if he goes to Downey. NO SCHOLARSHIP AND NO RING!

  25. @the boogie man's Gravatar @the boogie man
    April 20, 2015 - 12:01 pm | Permalink

    right on you said it well. if only 1% get D1 offers how many of the kids will make a living playing football? grades are important coachs like kids with good grades to improve there program, work hard in the class to have a better shot at a scollie

  26. The Boogie Man's Gravatar The Boogie Man
    April 20, 2015 - 8:49 am | Permalink

    Some posters in here are seriously deficient of common sense and a general overall understanding of how recruiting works.

    First off ,Coach Williams does not give out college schollies (just like every other high school coach).. College coaches give out schollies. That dude is always helping his players. You don’t think that he has tries to market all of his players in some shape or form??? Don’t you think he would get all the kids schollies if he could??? That would only benefit the Downey program. You think a college coach is going to put his career and source of income to feed his family on the line simply to do a favor for coach Wiliiams??? Yeah that makes a ton of sense. No college coach is going to give a scholly based on a favor. College coaches give out schollies based on ability and ability alone, whether that be the classroom or on the field. Ricky Wong got a scholly because of grades. If he did get it based on football film, then he has Coach Williams to thank since he NEVER PLAYED A DOWN at Buena Park. His film is from Downey. So if you ask me, Coach Williams must have done something right for him.

    If your child is good enough then a college will find them and offer them a scholarship. Problem for some of you parents is that you think your child is better than what they really are. I am not going to bash the players, because they are kids and are only doing what they are influenced to do. EHowever it is unfortunate that some of you parents are basing your success as a parent on whether or not your child receives an athletic scholarship.
    Do you not understand that you are embarrassing your child on here and yourself. Everyone knows who is posting on here. It reeks of your stinch.

  27. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    April 19, 2015 - 11:42 am | Permalink

    Looks like the village idiot finally got tired making his dumb comments…

  28. parent's Gravatar parent
    April 18, 2015 - 1:36 pm | Permalink

    Coach Williams have been good to my son appreciate coach Williams he highly respect coach Williams he always have been there for my son.if he needed someone to talk to or whatever Williams have been there for him.I wish nothing but the best for Downey.good luck and try to get back to the pride

  29. @ @tpeterson's Gravatar @ @tpeterson
    April 18, 2015 - 11:46 am | Permalink

    “People” is already plural you don’t need to add a “s” at the end. Yes, keep comforting yourself with that thought, those who transferred are really jealous of Downey because you guys got all those scholarships and ring.

  30. @tpeterson's Gravatar @tpeterson
    April 18, 2015 - 11:04 am | Permalink

    i think there are a couple of dads kicking them selves in the butt for transfering and so will the others as a matter of fact they are thinking about where to transfer for graduation before going to elac

  31. @tpeterson's Gravatar @tpeterson
    April 18, 2015 - 11:00 am | Permalink

    a lot of jealous peoples they are mad cause no one kiss butt a lot of kids would like to play in the finals 2 out of 3 years

  32. @tpeterson's Gravatar @tpeterson
    April 18, 2015 - 10:39 am | Permalink

    I agree with you. Something clearly is going on at Downey to warrant so many response. I bet if you did some journalistic investigating, MVS would uncover one of the biggest high school athletic scandal of all time.

  33. @Wong's Gravatar @Wong
    April 18, 2015 - 8:32 am | Permalink

    Congrats to your son for getting a free education at a top 50 college and continue to play the game he loves on Saturdays. Some schools clearly know what they are doing while other have no clue.

  34. Coach abc's Gravatar Coach abc
    April 18, 2015 - 8:08 am | Permalink

    I’ve stated over and over how coaches evaluate and give out scholarships and it has nothing to do with what highschool they go to or who their coach is and has EVERYTHING to do with the kids ability and grades. Parents don’t want to hear that, so they keep transferring to diff schools because rival coaches keep hyping this myth…. I’m done with this, this guy is beyond clueless.
    Downey, just be glad he’s gone…

    @t Peterson, this is the reason I (not accusing Downey just saying) never recruit, you get guys like this guy. Biggest headache you could ever imagine. Delusional and confused about how it really works. And if players were to want to transfer I would explain the same, then let them leave if they choose. It’s just not worth the headache.

  35. d2's Gravatar d2
    April 17, 2015 - 11:59 pm | Permalink

    Rickey Wong does have a d2 scholarship. Mr.Wong did good NY his son to get him put of downey.get your facts right @coach Wong.he have a full ride

  36. Wong's Gravatar Wong
    April 17, 2015 - 9:39 pm | Permalink

    my sun have this scholarchip when he play at Downey the buena coach do nothing for the wong family i pay cash if i want to

  37. time's Gravatar time
    April 17, 2015 - 8:22 pm | Permalink

    This is what we have time to do. Sit back and trash downey and their coaches. I’ve worked with Coach Williams for years. I’ve seen him help kids. Whether they went d1, d2, or d3 or jc. I’ve seen him be a help when he’s had the athletes to help. Kids and parents have to do their part as well. Kids have to earn the grades in the classroom and parents need to be involved with what there kids are doing. Coach Jack tries to help in every way. Coach Jack can’t study and take test for the kids. Coach Jack can’t make sure that kids get up and make it for practice on time. Coach Jack can’t make sure that everyone’s behavior is good on and off the the field. When do the adults take responsibility for their own attitudes and behaviors. Your kids are a direct reflection of you. Coach Jack lied, Coach Jack did this and Coach Jack did that. Let me tell you what i’ve seen. I’ve seen Coach Jack give opportunities to kids who quite frankly didn’t deserve it. I’ve seen Coach Jack watch film with parents to explain what their kid may have did or didn’t do. I’ve seen Coach Jack feed kids. I’ve seen Coach Jack try to mentor kids who just didn’t want to change. I’ve seen Coach be accused of being a liar, when the problem was that certain parents were blinded by the truth. I know Coach has helped families that were in trouble. (I can’t and won’t elaborate due to emberassing someone’s family) But he helped that family so that they wouldn’t loose where they reside until they were able to find work. Coach has tried beyond compare to help kids go d1. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. But there are reasons for everything and I can honestly say that the reason isn’t because Coach Jack didn’t try.

  38. @Poor LB Dad's Gravatar @Poor LB Dad
    April 17, 2015 - 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Didn’t Buena Park have seven players receive scholarships this year? Didn’t Ricky Wong commit to Oberlin College even without playing one down for BP? I guess it sucks for him Anthony White saved his family over $63,000 in tuition per year. It sucks for Carr La Mirada will get him a college scholarship just like they got for Christian Lara, Tony Brown, and too many others to mention. Both Wong and Carr should have stayed at Downey where they would have gotten NO SCHOLARSHIP AND NO RING.

  39. @poor LB dad's Gravatar @poor LB dad
    April 17, 2015 - 6:43 pm | Permalink

    you should try being a real dad instead of filling your boys head with drama and bs i dont tink he will make a living playing football so some real life lesson is more important than running from the truth step up and be the man he needs in his life right now stop trying to live thru your boy and grow up it will pay off in the long run

  40. Poor LB Dad's Gravatar Poor LB Dad
    April 17, 2015 - 6:23 pm | Permalink


  41. Coach abc's Gravatar Coach abc
    April 17, 2015 - 4:58 pm | Permalink

    Damn typos! Lol

  42. Poor LB Dad's Gravatar Poor LB Dad
    April 17, 2015 - 2:14 pm | Permalink

    You never answered why you have transferred your son to sooooo many schools. Reyna left because of the same reason (not receiving a scholarship) and daddy reyna thought it was downeys fault. Turns out it wasn’t because he didn’t receive one at pasadena. Mr. wong left for the same reason and how did that turn out? Now it’s daddy LB’s turn. Some parents just don’t like hearing the truth and find it easier to just blame the coaches instead of taking the constructed criticism for what it is.

  43. Coach abc's Gravatar Coach abc
    April 17, 2015 - 2:03 pm | Permalink

    You’re guys are right it does require a lot to get recruited. It’s cannot be state enough. It takes a lot of ability on the players side, once again. If you’re son was good enough, I don’t care what his coach says he’d get recruited. You guys just want an excuse because you’re asshamed that he’s not getting offers because you probably go around telling everyone how great he is…Like I said 1% of all players get scholarships, no shame for the other 99%. You’re son in that group. There’s nothing wrong with it. Bashing and blaming other is wrong. I don’t know nor do I care what went on in your meeting.

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