Fanview: September 3, 2016

Joe T.

Joe T…Still trusting in the Amazing!

By Joe Torosian

“I wanna have friends that I can trust,
that love me for the man I’ve become not the man I was.”
—The Avett Brothers

Kick it!

Right off the Top: Ever notice how you never see the Los Angeles Angels and the San Francisco Giants pitching staffs in the room at the same time?


Azusa Pacific alum Terrell Watson makes the Cleveland Browns 53-man roster.


Did someone really say on our boards that La Mirada has a lousy football coach?


Joe T.'s High School football novel is available through “A literary snapshot of what goes on over the course of a high school football season…an awesome read and a story that truly will transcend time.”—Jim Singiser, AD/HC Arroyo Knights Football “Thrill, dread, anxiety, love, agony, success, and failure; basically all the emotions you feel as a football player/coach as you do in life, all wrapped up in a single book.”—Marc Paramo, HC Rosemead Panthers Football “I read the book and really enjoyed it a great deal. I would think coaches and parents could Learn a lot.”—John “Coach” Kentera, former sports talk host at Mighty 690 & Mighty 1090

Joe T.’s High School football novel is available through
“A literary snapshot of what goes on over the course of a high school football season…an awesome read and a story that truly will transcend time.”—Jim Singiser, AD/HC Arroyo Knights Football
“Thrill, dread, anxiety, love, agony, success, and failure; basically all the emotions you feel as a football player/coach as you do in life, all wrapped up in a single book.”—Marc Paramo, HC Rosemead Panthers Football
“I read the book and really enjoyed it a great deal. I would think coaches and parents could Learn a lot.”—John “Coach” Kentera, former sports talk host at Mighty 690 & Mighty 1090

The Shazbat Department:
I can’t believe Monrovia is 0-2, I can’t believe they lost to La Salle, I can’t believe they’ve been outscored 70-7 to start the season.

Technically the Wildcats started 0-2 in 2015 but the “Big F” was played and they got the forfeit win over Burbank.

The last time M-Town was officially 0-2 to the start of a season was in 2001 when they fell to Chaffey (25-7) and West Covina (17-9). They finished 4-7 and were bounced in the first round of the playoffs by North Torrance (35-14).


Word is La Canada has some good girth in the trenches and with the current chaos in the Rio Hondo League…Some are saying (sideline people & those with axes to grind online) that the Spartans might have a shot at the RHL title.

Say what?

I said they might have a shot at the RHL title.

Last Add La Canada: They did lose to South Hills last night 12-9.


No, Jim Singiser didn’t call for an onside kick in the fourth quarter against Temple City last night.


With the Los Angeles Rams terminating Akeem Ayers (a close personal friend of Temple City quarterback Riley Saxon during the second round of the 2006 Mid-Valley Division playoffs), does the other outside linebacker job go to Nic Grigsby?

Props to MVS staffer Duane “Formerly Bad News” Barker on his emphatic statement that the Rams would not cut Nelson Spruce…I thought the kid had his moment in the lights and would be moving on to a career in hotel/restaurant management. Good for him.

Happy to see Austin Hill begin the rest of his life so he can MARRY the mother of his child.

Last Add Hill: Couldn’t Rams GM Les Snead pay Hill significantly less than Brian Quick to stay with the team and drop passes?

Really sad to see Kush go…


Irony Department:
So Arroyo scores the “BIG F” victory—forfeit—over Covina when the Colts discovered an ineligible player in uniform. The teams played to a 17-17 tie last Saturday night at CDF (or is it CDS?). There was a play late in the game where it was fairly clear C-Town running back Devonte Bevel didn’t make it out of the end zone. The Knights weren’t awarded a safety.

Now, with the game forfeited…Like most, the score on CalPreps & MaxPreps will likely be altered to read “Forfeit: Arroyo 2 Covina 0.”


Last Add Monrovia: The last time they started a season close to this year’s current point-differential of 70-7 was in 1992…The head coach was Leon Ward (Yeah, Leon) and the Wildcats were outscored 72-12 to start the season. They lost to Duarte (39-6) and Bellflower (33-6).

Providence smiled on them in Week Three as Hoover came to town and they won, 27-3. Transfer tailback Brian Warner (formerly of El Dorado) was declared eligible for the ‘Cats and he rushed for 220 yards and two touchdowns.


Only Add South Hills: The Huskies are 1-1 under new HC Matt Bechtel but they’ve been outscored 23-22 in two games.


Really Last Add Monrovia: The last time the Wildcats started a season 0-3 was in 1989 when they began 0-7 under Al Clegg. M-Town finished the year 1-9.


Speaking of being outscored…Temple City, currently 0-2, has been outscored 92-14 to start the season.

But don’t stress, it’s a better 0-2 start then they had in 2013 when they were outscored 99-8 in the first two weeks.

A TC old-timer asked me what I thought, knowing I was around during better times…I didn’t give an answer…I asked him what he thought.

“Well, the school got what it wanted and we have a helluva marching band.”


Under The Radar & Grinding Away:

South El Monte…SEM Trench Mob…Something’s brewing in the swamp…under the radar and grinding away

It’s a Swamp Thang! South El Monte “Trench Mob”

South El Monte is 2-0 for the first time since 2011 when they opened the campaign 4-0…In two games Sal Tovar has rushed for 559 yards and seven touchdowns.

Behind a rejuvenated offensive line, he’s rushed for 312 yards against Gladstone and 247 yards against La Puente. This week he gets to run through Walnut.


Oh, and Hoover is 2-0.


Have we seen the end of Mark Sanchez? Remember when he came out after his junior season and Pete Carroll told him he was making a mistake and needed another year?


Next Add Temple City: I’m not going to comment about the marching band or be drawn into a discussion about the “dark hole” (as some have described it in the past) of performing arts…but I will say something about the coaching staff.

I don’t know Rams HC Marc Shettleroe, I haven’t interviewed Marc Shettleroe…(Frankly, after 19 years I’ve lost interest in the standard post-game interview…that’s another story.) …But I will tell you this about Shettleroe and his staff…I’ve seen scores upon scores of blowouts and I’ve never seen a staff, after all hope of winning was lost, keep coaching has hard as Shettleroe’s was against Arroyo last night.

There’s some talent at TC (no JV team) but it looks like (looks like from my perspective) Shettleroe and his staff are having to teach football at the varsity level. The team looks like it’s working hard but they don’t know the game the way their ancestors in horns did.

As someone who has seen high school football from the sidelines in parts of four different decades…my advice to the remaining TC faithful is to be all in behind Shettleroe and his people.

It wasn’t a switch in demographics that put this program on life support…it was instability at the top…Unless there’s something I don’t know (and there’s always a whole lot a sportswriter does not know)…I would find every way possible to support Shettleroe.


I’m supposed to be excited because the Los Angeles Dodgers will be televising their last six-home games on KTLA?

To me, what this sounds like is the attempt to squeeze people into signing up with Time Warner has failed. Now they’re doing some public relations by showing the games and achieving the ability to make the argument that they denied nobody anything.

Sorry, I’m not buying…Then again, I haven’t bought what the Dodgers have been selling for the last three years.


Speakes2Midbits (same as ‘Tidbits’)
Midbits: Does everybody have to be “Live” now on Facebook?

Midbits: Maybe Mississippi State should have asked Wyatt Roberts to walk-on?

Midbits: Sam Bradford…wow…

Midbits: I believe in Jerry Chou, Mike McKay, and Jacob Ochoa.

Midbits: I guess the Cleveland Browns have had quite enough of Justin Gilbert.


New York Mets: 103
Los Angeles Dodgers: 17
San Francisco Giants: 14
Los Angeles Angels: 8
Quick Pitch (Watney/Ryan): 78

The Dude abides…


Psalm 126:

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19 Comments to "Fanview: September 3, 2016"

  1. Hey Joe's Gravatar Hey Joe
    September 6, 2016 - 6:04 pm | Permalink

    I struck a nerve lol

  2. Hey Joe's Gravatar Hey Joe
    September 6, 2016 - 5:07 pm | Permalink

    Having the antiquated category bar costs me time every day as I look everyday for new stories.
    Joe, the only thing I remember sucking about you was your presumed jump shot back in HS. 🙂

    From Joe T.: I can still roll out of bed on Christmas day and knock down a three…The question you have to ask is how much rain do you want? You want a little or do you want a lot? I’ll put so many threes in your face you’ll be begging me for a layup…I’ll torch you so bad you’ll need a quart of Noxzema and a week in the closet before you can come out in public again…

  3. HEY JOE's Gravatar HEY JOE
    September 5, 2016 - 11:01 pm | Permalink

    Time to clean up the category bar on the website. No need for division headings with the new CIF divisions

    From Joe T.: I agree…the discussion has been about how to go about it…Our DNA was built for three/four separate divisions…not teams spread all over the landscape…We would ask that you bear with us as we attempt to straighten out these difficulties 🙂 …In other words, we’ll stop sucking soon.

  4. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    September 5, 2016 - 2:53 pm | Permalink

    That’s a bold statement joe, unless you have very intimate knowledge of everything In the kids situation I would refrain from making such an asinine statement. They’re are so many factors that go into each relationship. To say he chooses himself over his daughter is just wrong. It takes two people to have a successful relationship, not just up to the man. Should he marry into a terrible relationship, so the girls sees her parents fighting. Yea that’s very productive, there’s so much more to being a good parents then just being together. I could go on n on but this is a site about football. Preach at your church about what a man should do with his family, this is not the right forum.

    From Joe T.: Do you think someone needs to be at church to always be a good father or mother? I believe it helps…BUT I SAID NOTHING ABOUT HIM GOING TO CHURCH, BEING IN CHURCH, OR LIVING IN SIN! I have spent my life around teenagers and young people and the example being set out there for everyone to see is to AVOID responsibility…It does matter…That’s why we have fewer men and a whole lot of boys–with no intention of being men…In regards to Hill I am commenting on what has been seen…We are not watching two teenagers raising a child…we are watching two grown adults putting off responsibility…I have seen enough brokeness with young people from empty kitchen tables because dad took off…Dad didn’t want to be around…I’ve sat in the back of squad cars with students, visited them in psych wards…conversed with them in prison…And I’ll go as far as saying 90% of the time it was because dad couldn’t get his act together…Preaching? Please…I wish everyone would preach this sermon…and you don’t even have to mention Jesus’ name…We’ve turned sex into a game and a pursuit…but whether or not you believe in God…(I’m not asking you too)…sex carries the potential to create life…it cannot be treated in a casual manner…and when it’s treated in a casual manner you have Mom’s (by and large) raising kids by themselves…All I said, in both my columns, was that Hill needs to marry the mother of his child…I must be an f-bombing Nazi…I said Hill needs to get serious about the business of raising his daughter…He’s been with the Raiders, the Jets, the Patriots, and the Rams…and they’ve all released him…I’m not questioning if he’s a good person or a nice guy…but at 26 and with a Psychology degree it’s time to start thinking about the bigger picture…or at least the CFL.

  5. Joe Pulitzer's Gravatar Joe Pulitzer
    September 4, 2016 - 10:42 pm | Permalink

    I find much of your opinion worthy but the B word is as ugly in todays usage as it was in the past. In days of old a bastard child was one that was not acknowledged by any man as the father, as in a traveler having done the deed in passing through town and long gone. Hill is certainly not that and neither is his baby girl a bastard. Those countries that I mentioned that don’t marry are also rated the happiest in the world. Strange ain’t it. Many biblical heroes fathered bastards through concubines and such and were bastards themselves Strange also. Hill loves and adores his daughter and that counts for something.

    From Joe T.: Again…I never mentioned the Bible…The question of whether these countries are truly happy is eternally debatable…and “Bastard” is an ugly word so we dispense of it because we don’t like to be reminded of our lack of responsibility as a society…I never said Hill didn’t love his daughter…He loves her, he just loves himself more…He needs to make a commitment to her and her mother…You don’t ever have to call somebody a bastard but it doesn’t change the circumstances…

  6. City of Monrovia's Gravatar City of Monrovia
    September 4, 2016 - 9:24 pm | Permalink

    Joe T, on your midbits regarding those coaches, are you F kidding me??? They all suck.
    Monrovia is about to go 0-3, Joe T i hope you’re not on any type of drugs sir.

    From Joe T.: Claritin … an occasional Pepcid… and placebos…

  7. Three Year Degree's Gravatar Three Year Degree
    September 4, 2016 - 9:15 pm | Permalink

    That’s awesome that he has a degree three years out of HS. Doing that while playing D1 football is a real achievement! If he keeps it up, he might have a Master’s at 23. He won’t make the NFL, but he made college ball work for him more than many D1 recruits.

  8. HOT ROD's Gravatar HOT ROD
    September 4, 2016 - 8:35 pm | Permalink

    Ex Pasadena and Temple City star QB Brandon Cox is a graduated junior transfer two weeks ago from Utah to Hampton University, a black college where his parents went to school. He played a series in the 4th qtr in a blowout today, but will threaten for the starting job once he gets a grasp of the playbook

  9. Joe Pulitzer's Gravatar Joe Pulitzer
    September 4, 2016 - 1:06 pm | Permalink

    Your unhappiness at Austin Hill’s personal life is telling. This is the 2nd time you called him out for (exxcuse me) living in sin and not marrying her.. You are old buddy. It has not crossed your mind that mama might be holding things up? Women are liberated in case you have lost your ability to read something other than the sports pages and Bible. Women make decisions everyday pal. Entire countries have many more people living together without the paper work than married. And this lady with a very cute daughter may very well be staying or leaving based on her own mind not Austin’s. She might be telling him not yet big boy.

    From Joe T.: Ese…Ese…First of all I could careless what another country does regarding marriage/parenting…But where and when did I mention sin?
    I think it’s a bit more telling of your mindset…I never said sin…and I never even called him a jackass for getting a girl pregnant and not marrying her…I said he needed to marry her because what a kid needs more than a trip to Disneyland or a birthday party is for their parents to love and respect each other…being born a bastard-child I have a keen insight on this…Women are liberated? The four women I live with never told me that…really? 🙂 Thanks for the tip…But in terms of Hill’s girlfriend we don’t see a self-sufficient woman with a career and an established life of her own…We see a young woman criss-crossing around the country while her “man” pursues his dream…I began working with teenagers in the fall of 1984 and have learned this truth…Men and women are different (I know that’s a shocker for some to hear)…Men will play Peter Pan as long as they can to avoid responsibility…and women, for the most part, they want to be married to a real man…That’s a real pain in the butt for today’s culture to wrestle with but it’s true…that little girl needs to see her father commit to her mother…flat out…and I’ve seen enough broken hearted kids, abandoned by their fathers, who don’t want a trip to Disneyland…They don’t want to go see the next Toy Story movie…They want their parents to be together…They want them happy…they want to see them respect and honor each other.
    Sin? Come to my church and I’ll talk about sin…but I never said anything about sin here…

  10. Falcon1's Gravatar Falcon1
    September 4, 2016 - 12:03 am | Permalink

    CV is picked to win The Pacific league but y’all don’t know it yet!

  11. 4-2?'s Gravatar 4-2?
    September 3, 2016 - 9:57 pm | Permalink

    In league South El Monte beats El Monte and…

    Marshall for sure. Maybe Gabrielino and Rosemead. Maaaybe the Ducks.

  12. Long Season Ahead's Gravatar Long Season Ahead
    September 3, 2016 - 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Burbank favorite to win Pacific League
    La Salle pick em before Schroeder went down.
    Arcadia has its most athletic and best teams in years.
    Damien is Damien again just beat Glendora.
    Whittier is 2-0
    I just don’t see a win. I’m not saying its the hardest schedule they’ve had because they always scheduled tough but for a team who lost its starting QB it’s rough. There is no Keppels or Hoover’s on the schedule.

  13. Really?'s Gravatar Really?
    September 3, 2016 - 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Hey, the only reason Monrovia has to loose is so they can get dropped a couple divisions and eat all the helpless teams. in 2 years they can pick on helpless and win those Division 12 or 13 teams. Right Greenie! Its in the plan.

  14. @Long Season Ahead's Gravatar @Long Season Ahead
    September 3, 2016 - 9:32 pm | Permalink

    Rough non league schedule? This is the softest non league schedule Monrovia has had in years!

  15. Long Season Ahead's Gravatar Long Season Ahead
    September 3, 2016 - 9:10 pm | Permalink

    With the rough non league schedule Monrovia is most likely headed towards 0-5.

  16. September 3, 2016 - 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Nice to see the South El Monte Eagles back on the scene. Looks like the hire of Frank Gallardo is starting to pay off. Stay under the radar Eagles. League should be less one sided as previously thought. Maybe there are more than two teams in the hunt. You never know! Keep playing hard young Eagles make us proud.

  17. My Two Cents's Gravatar My Two Cents
    September 3, 2016 - 8:39 pm | Permalink

    I believe Penny got released.

  18. Really??'s Gravatar Really??
    September 3, 2016 - 7:18 pm | Permalink

    You’re commenting on South El Monte being 2-0, who have they played?? I can name a couple of Junior Highs that can beat Happy Rock and La Puente! In league South El Monte beats El Monte and…

  19. Man of your word!!!!'s Gravatar Man of your word!!!!
    September 3, 2016 - 4:42 pm | Permalink

    Nice post Joe….knew you would come through…


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