The Peterson Principle: 12/09/2017

Tim Peterson

By Tim Peterson

The Final Four was announced this week with Clemson, Oklahoma, Georgia and Alabama making the cut. Cajon got screwed.

Remember back in the day when Magic would dish to James Worthy for two, Byron Scott would knock down a deep three, a steal would lead to another three by Michael Cooper and suddenly the “Showtime” Lakers were on a 20-2 run? Chick Hearn would yell “Time out Boston!” Well, Cajon is kind of like that.

One minute, Cajon was trailing Downey 14-13, the next Cajon was up 34-14. Early in the second half, Downey cut the lead to 34-28, minutes later it was 54-28 Cajon. The only thing missing was Chick barking “Time out, Vikings!” Twice Cajon went on quick three touchdown runs that just buried Downey in the Division 4 championship game. Speed, defense, athletes, Cajon has the whole package. Alabama looks boring by comparison.

The Cowboys hit Downey for 54, and dropped 70 last night on Rancho Verde in the State Bowl. Quarterback Jayden Daniels is going to make a Division 1 College Offensive Coordinator very happy in a couple of years. Only a junior…


Overheard on the sidelines Saturday night regarding Downey quarterback Kijjon Foots. “Foots? Wait, shouldn’t it be feet?”


If Covina could have just made one stop, one!, it would have won the CIF title. Shame to see the Colts score 106 points in two games but still fall six short. But that being said it was a great run for Nin Burns II, Erik Cuellar and company. You want great quotes? Forget putting a recorder in front of a coach after the game and asking him to explain his thoughts. Just listen to him address his team.

Covina HC Joe Brown summed it up best. “I love each and every one of you. You got me my first league championship, you got me to my first CIF Championship and I will never forget each and every one of you. And I will take that to the grave. I know it hurts guys. We’re all hurting but it wasn’t a lack of effort or lack of desire.” Good stuff.


At first glance it looks like we failed miserably on our CIF Finals picks. We actually ended up 2-3 with El Modena and Paraclete winning. And c’mon, Covina loses on a last minute touchdown and St. Francis gets beat on a last second field goal! 4-1 was a real possibility. I can just see the comments now… coulda, shoulda, woulda…


There was an argument on Twitter this week about who the MVP of the Valle Vista League should be. If it’s not Northview quarterback Steven Comstock there shouldn’t be an award. There were some great players in the Valle Vista in 2017, Burns, Cuellar, etc. but Comstock was the MVP – in the true meaning of the word.


Ran into Northview HC Marcel Perez at the Covina-Katella Final. The difference between his Vikings and first round opponent Millikan? “It was the depth. All of their guys just go one way. They were fresh,” Perez said. “Most of our guys play on both sides of the ball. In fact we’ve already been talking about how going forward we need to coach our guys to play just one way if we’re going to compete in this division. Maybe we as coaches need to work harder.” In case you forgot Northview beat Covina 42-28 on October 13.


It didn’t take long for the first shoe to drop. Keith Richardson is out at Pomona. Wasn’t it just last year that people were heaping praise on Richardson for taking over in the post season and leading the Red Devils to a CIF Championship? Actually it was 2014 that Pomona completed its title run with a win over Paraclete but that’s how fast things can change. I don’t know the exact reason for Richardson’s dismissal but it wasn’t simply a matter of wins and losses.


Did you know that San Dimas head coach Mark Holman and Katella HC Fred DiPalma are neighbors? “I love Fred, just a great guy,” Holman said.

Holman and I were both still trying to figure out how Dylan Ware didn’t get into the end zone against Kaiser on the two point conversion. It’s still a mystery.


Montebello’s non-league schedule is already set for 2018. at Garfield, Cantwell, Crescenta Valley, El Rancho, at La Serna. I like it.


All things must pass as George Harrison once said. And so it was this week at Mid Valley Sports when Sports Editor/Columnist/Writer Joe Torosian stepped down to pursue other opportunities. Joe was the pioneer in starting sports at the “Mid” from the early days back to the Mid Valley News. When he first walked into then editor Connie Keenan’s office back in 1998 sports was non existent in the paper. Connie, based on her previous experience with so called “sportswriters” thought he wouldn’t last a week. Here it is nearly 20 years later and MVS is still thriving on the internet.

Joe was the brains behind regular features that you see on the site today such as “The TEN” and “Game Night.” He had readers anxiously awaiting to see what he would come up with next in his weekly “Fanview” column. He was also instrumental in our weekly “Mid Valley Sports Show” that ran on Tuesday nights for several years. He helped countless writers that passed through our office improve their skills  – not because he wanted more coverage for the “Mid” but simply because he wanted to see them move on to bigger and better things, which several of them did.

He gave me an opportunity and brought me in 1999 because he knew I had an interest in sports writing and later encouraged me to write a weekly column which I still write today. For that I will be forever grateful. So I’ll overlook his annoying love of the Mets to say thanks Joe for all you did at the “Mid” and for what you did for me and the rest of the staff. It’s been a great run. Good luck in all of your future endeavors and projects. Oh, and I’ll need you to send me all of your high school football history information ASAP.


Jayden Daniels just scored again.  Time out! Rancho Verde!

That’s my principle.

Tim can be reached at or on Twitter @tspeterson40.

39 Comments to "The Peterson Principle: 12/09/2017"

    December 17, 2017 - 11:56 am | Permalink


    Mr Recruiter you just insulted four groups of men, by calling the staffs sub par.

    Why would a grown man go on an open forum and criticize about 30 other grown men, anonymously ?.

    NOT only is that a cowardly type of behavior, it shows an extreme desire to be heard or noticed by the football community on this board as some type of authority on coaches.

    I’m not analyzing you for fun but rather as a genuine interest in strange word behavior, if you are a coach you are two faced no doubt because if you were to see any of these coaches at a passing game or someplace you would smile and talk civil, but behind the screen in your dark little hole you are an authority.

    Its a 95% chance you are not a paid coach but rather a jock sniffer or in need of another mans attention, Its more than likely you have no Masters Degree as I believe all the 4 head coaches that you just mentioned do, and a 78% chance you were not a starter on your high school football team. And 92% chance you were not an all league player as were the coaches and 99% chance you were not an all CIF player as some of these coaches were.

    I also believe there is an unwritten rule about coaches, they don’t criticize each other in public, so you are not a coach, and as for a recruiter well it is my estimation you are a little league character who has trouble getting life scanned.

    I have no issue with you calling yourself a recruiter or an engineer or a surgeon for that matter, but to call out four high school staffs out like that is really odd.
    You have no idea how hard those men work and what they go through, not to mention all the unique situations and circumstances in the valley to get talent with the changing demographics and nuts trying to attract kids to different schools, finally your lack of respect for these men shows you have never been on a sideline, and if you have its been as a G.B.C.

    As for Mr Anonymous and Mr Oliva comments, if coach Oliva is his model of the best he has ever seen as a coach or a mentor so be it, he is entitled. Coach Oliva is not the one blogging i’m sure of that not that I know him but I cant imagine a head coach going on a blog and criticizing other coaches or patting himself on the back that would be really strange behavior.

    I actually feel kind of sorry for the guy who constantly talks about another man so much, really sad I mean some men love their families or their work or their boats or their Harleys, but this guy is infatuated with his kids former football coach. PLEASE STAY ANONYMOUS.


  2. December 13, 2017 - 12:43 am | Permalink

    Depends on borders, we lived in South San Gabriel near Bosco Tech and my son’s went to Schurr. I coached at Rebels, they go everywhere,

  3. December 11, 2017 - 11:53 pm | Permalink

    Nope…they all (9) went to play Rosemead Freshmen Football..5-1 in Div.& 7-3 over all…

  4. Elrancho's Gravatar Elrancho
    December 11, 2017 - 8:08 pm | Permalink

    He’s already home.. sorry

  5. Recruiter's Gravatar Recruiter
    December 11, 2017 - 8:00 pm | Permalink

    Which schools and programs are you talking about? Which shadiness are you talking about?

  6. Elrancho's Gravatar Elrancho
    December 11, 2017 - 7:25 pm | Permalink

    What Pico crazies? 1 freakin dad whose always been a clown says something on social media and you think it’s the end of the world.. Medrano is building something special and will only be aided by the state of the art facilities about to go up. My money is on a few of those Bonita assistants heading down the 605 in a few weeks..

  7. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    December 11, 2017 - 7:12 pm | Permalink


    Come back home Medrano. Open tab at Lordsburg!!!

  8. December 11, 2017 - 7:10 pm | Permalink

    Change of subject….
    Is the Turk getting ready to say Chow to Chou ?

  9. Local Fan's Gravatar Local Fan
    December 11, 2017 - 5:24 pm | Permalink

    I agree with TP why are we even talking about Jude, he wasn’t even in this thread then some morons have to bring him up. I also agree with TP that I like Montebello schedule too! Saw that Rancho Verde vs St Francis game on TV and those athletes at RV were the real deal, tremendous players!! Congrats to Covina thought they were going to pull it out, but tremendous run they made! Future looks bright with that QB. Also, have to agree no way Comstock should not be MVP of that league!!

  10. Ron Vrooman, AHS stat man's Gravatar Ron Vrooman, AHS stat man
    December 11, 2017 - 5:03 pm | Permalink

    That’s an excellent point, Tim, and your question is a good one.
    By the way, I’m not looking for work at the Mid. I already have two jobs which occupy most of my time. But, I’ll take NWO’s remark as a compliment.
    In the meantime, I appreciate the space that I’m allowed here.

    @ Almont, RAMS FAN, & Recruiter:
    Coach Oliva wasn’t even at the top of my list when I said, “It appears that the shady operators and outright cheaters are running things now.”
    I had several high school football programs in mind, and I’ll come back with more on that later.

  11. FBFan's Gravatar FBFan
    December 11, 2017 - 4:54 pm | Permalink

    Unfortunately, Aguilar was doomed from the start. He was Bonita’s 2nd choice but their 1st choice didn’t work out because he didn’t know how to get along with Bub and Podley from the get go. It’s believed because he didn’t want Medina as his DC but it was really because he didn’t know how to get along.

    So in comes Aguilar, a nice guy who kids like. Unfortunately, the kids did not play Bonita football the way it has been played in recent years. Couple that with all the rumors that have circulated of him not getting along with his coaching staff and the move was made.
    I imagine he shouldn’t have a hard time finding a job somewhere or even if he went somewhere to be an assistant.

    As for Bonita, it’s been a bad separation for both Medrano and the Bearcats. I’m not sure they’ll get the same candidate pool they had a year ago. Bonita has struggled with Aguilar and Medrano has all the Pico crazies shouting for his job. I say they pull out all the stops to bring him back.

  12. Ron Vrooman, AHS stat man's Gravatar Ron Vrooman, AHS stat man
    December 11, 2017 - 4:39 pm | Permalink

    @ SGV Insider & My Two Cents: I don’t generally engage in hatred. I reserve that sentiment for serial killers, mass murderers, maniacal dictators, terrorists, assassins, and rapists.
    My Two Cents, if you read my post carefully, you should’ve noticed that I complimented Coach Oliva on his formidable skill as an offensive coordinator. But, I always try to take someone’s total record into account.
    I wish Coach Oliva the best in his future teaching and coaching endeavors.
    San Gabriel did beat Alhambra pretty often when he was with the Matadors, but AHS actually won a few times when he was the offensive coordinator under Keith Jones in the early 2000’s.

  13. Sgv Insider's Gravatar Sgv Insider
    December 11, 2017 - 3:59 pm | Permalink

    @ MyTwoCents,
    A**clown!!! Thought we said when adults are talking you are to keep your idiotic comments and predictions to yourself. Read what he wrote. He’s not talking trash about Oliva. He’s stating an opinion. Unlike you who spews garbage out of your mouth. Hey, is Stanford going to beat SC? You clown… In the words of another clown, ” stay in your lane “!!!

  14. NWO's Gravatar NWO
    December 11, 2017 - 3:37 pm | Permalink

    When is Ron Vrooman’s first column for the Mid?
    From T. Peterson: The day after yours.

  15. Ron Vrooman, AHS stat man's Gravatar Ron Vrooman, AHS stat man
    December 11, 2017 - 3:14 pm | Permalink

    @ Recruiter: Yeah, recruiting is becoming the crappy new “normal.” I will never consider it acceptable conduct on the part of athletic programs at public high schools.
    As for private schools, which have no attendance boundaries, they should be placed in separate CIF divisions. How’s that for a solution?
    The CIF Southern Section could make the change if it could only put ethical standards above all other considerations.

  16. My Two Cents's Gravatar My Two Cents
    December 11, 2017 - 3:06 pm | Permalink

    It’s natural for the Stat Man to hate coach O. I believe he beat Alhambra every year he was at SG.

  17. Lol's Gravatar Lol
    December 11, 2017 - 3:03 pm | Permalink

    So he’s exempt from all that if he’s an assistant with no official title… lol

  18. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    December 11, 2017 - 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Bonita has released Ibis Aguilar as head coach.

  19. NWO's Gravatar NWO
    December 11, 2017 - 2:55 pm | Permalink

    The majority of starters from SG’s two CIF finals appearances were former Rebels.

  20. Ron Vrooman, AHS stat man's Gravatar Ron Vrooman, AHS stat man
    December 11, 2017 - 2:27 pm | Permalink

    @ Anonymous and anyone else who’s interested.

    Highlights of Jude Oliva’s head coaching career:

    San Gabriel High School, 2011: Won the Almont League championship and led the Matadors to the CIF Division XI final, where they lost to Monrovia.
    Maranatha High, 2013: Won the Olympic League title; the Minutemen lost to Duarte in the first round of the playoffs that year.

    I believe in giving credit where credit is due. I don’t personally dislike Coach Oliva; I’ve found him to be a pleasant individual the few times I’ve met him.
    And, we all know that he’s one of the best offensive coordinators in the area.

    However, things happened at San Gabriel High in 2012 that never should’ve been allowed to occur. (Use of an ineligible player which resulted in the forfeiture of the Matadors’ season opener, and then the alleged theft or mishandling of funds and equipment following the end of that season.)
    I have never said that Coach Oliva was solely responsible for the latter incidents, which happened around the time he left San Gabriel. But, it’s clear that there was a lack of institutional control, and he should have been accountable to some degree, since he was the person in charge of the football program.
    The manager of the school bank was later implicated in alleged mismanagement or worse, and she got transferred out of San Gabriel. So, I suspect that there was plenty of blame to go around back in 2012.

    I think we can agree that being a high school head coach is a pretty high-stakes business. With the position, and the recognition that it brings, comes enormous responsibility.
    I believe there should be accountability for everyone who’s involved in an athletic program: school administrators, coaches, boosters, parents, and student-athletes.
    Everybody should play by the rules, and there should be no exceptions. The CIF Southern Section, which has “looked the other way” for far too long, should enforce those rules.
    In addition, the CIF’s termination of the association rule and its adoption of the “30-day” transfer rule have been huge mistakes. Those moves only made an imperfect situation worse.
    They’re making a travesty of amateur sports at the high school level.

  21. Captain's Gravatar Captain
    December 11, 2017 - 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Any word if Timmy Trojan will be the next to leave the mid? Maybe he and joe can be assistant coaches at Schurr?

  22. Almont's Gravatar Almont
    December 11, 2017 - 10:37 am | Permalink

    I can’t remember Vrooman taking aim at any other coaches either, Rams Fan. I always thought he was too busy excusing Bergstrom’s shortcomings to have time for anything else.

  23. RAMS FAN's Gravatar RAMS FAN
    December 11, 2017 - 9:45 am | Permalink

    What’s the deal Ron? All year your posts are reflective of the trials and tribulations at Alhambra. But when Jude’s name comes up your opinion comes in. The fact that 7 previous posts on this thread mention Jude’s name and your comment about “shady operators and out right cheaters” makes the inference obvious. Did something happen to you when he was next door at San Gabriel? Just curious why I don’t remember you taking aim against any other coach in all the time you’ve been posting. What’s the deal?

  24. Recruiter's Gravatar Recruiter
    December 11, 2017 - 9:35 am | Permalink

    Why would an incoming freshman go to a Alhambra, Rosemead, Mark Keppel or San Gabriel when their coaching staff is sub par, the program is in the dumps and no school pride! For a lot of these kids, they want to get coached up, be in a good program where it’s exciting To strap up the cleats otherwise they are treating it like a crappy job. Don’t blame other schools for wanting to do the absolute best job to make their program something admirable.

    Again recruiting is kinda the norm now, you have private schools in the same division as public schools, how do you expect public schools to compete if they can’t go get a few kids?
    The top public football programs have done it for YEARS but not it’s happening near you and you wanna complain! Don’t be a punk and do a better job of keeping your kids

  25. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    December 11, 2017 - 8:58 am | Permalink

    What did Jude win at Maranantha? League Championships? CIF Championships?

  26. December 11, 2017 - 2:46 am | Permalink

    Went out to watch the Katella-Monte Vista game Saturday night. Like a dumas I thought the game started at 7 so imagine my surprise when I got in the stadium 5 mins before kickoff at 6. I also had to park just about in Fullerton because the Park-Football field- Dog Park parking really sucks.
    Game was all Monte Vista till about 4 mins into the 3rd quarter with Katella down 35-7. Katella fans were leaving. Then Monte Vista went into self destruct mode. Muffed snap, fumbles, and nothing was going right. Final score Katella 36-Monte Vista 35. Katella took advantage of every hiccup and pulled out the W.
    The fans that left early will be easy to spot for another day or so. Just look for the red forehead from giving themselves face palms when they found out the score.

  27. HatersHate's Gravatar HatersHate
    December 11, 2017 - 12:30 am | Permalink

    Same reason a lot of legit coaches stepped down the last few years the bxxxhing parents and players.

  28. Ron Vrooman, AHS stat man's Gravatar Ron Vrooman, AHS stat man
    December 11, 2017 - 12:24 am | Permalink

    @ Interesting: Or, they could even go to San Gabriel High School, if they live in the southern part of Rosemead. That area is in the Garvey/Alhambra Unified School District.
    But, public school attendance boundaries don’t seem to matter much any more. It appears that the shady operators and outright cheaters are running things now.

  29. Interesting's Gravatar Interesting
    December 10, 2017 - 8:39 pm | Permalink

    Shouldn’t Rosemead kids go to Rosemead not a school in Montebello

  30. The Truth's Gravatar The Truth
    December 10, 2017 - 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Get off his jock already

  31. Wing house's Gravatar Wing house
    December 10, 2017 - 5:56 pm | Permalink

    @ The Equalizer did you not see what Cajon did to the division 3cif champion. Put up 70 so Cajon is the real deal. But go head bash on Downey.

  32. Lol's Gravatar Lol
    December 10, 2017 - 5:00 pm | Permalink

    If he’s such a great head coach why is he taking scraps from Almont D12 Schurr and not a HC at a legit program?

  33. HatersHate's Gravatar HatersHate
    December 10, 2017 - 3:05 pm | Permalink

    All this hate on Jude just because he’s more then likely better than your HC…

  34. The Equalizer's Gravatar The Equalizer
    December 10, 2017 - 2:30 pm | Permalink

    I just saying that close only matters in horseshoes and grenades, but what Cajon did to Downey isn’t in that discussion.

  35. The Equalizer's Gravatar The Equalizer
    December 10, 2017 - 11:40 am | Permalink

    Hey, I’ll give Peterson the fantasy of saying his pick prevailed in the SF-RV game, if he’ll turn around and surrender TWO LOSSES for getting beaten so badly in his Downey-Cajon selection. Sounds fair to me.
    From T. Peterson: Actually I said we lost the SF-RV game. That’s why we were 2-3….??

  36. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    December 10, 2017 - 5:08 am | Permalink

    With Jude on staff Schurr most be getting all the Rosemead rebel kids to go play.

  37. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    December 9, 2017 - 11:30 pm | Permalink

    Don’t forget Jude also won one at Maranatha. Everywhere he goes he wins, so maybe that is why the write so much about him. That is probably why you hate him. LOL…

  38. Area Spectator's Gravatar Area Spectator
    December 9, 2017 - 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Who cares about Jude already!! Every post that dude comes up in! Dude can’t win, period! He might be the highest touted coach that comes in second in league!! Lol… I know, I know he won one at Buena Park, and one at San Gabriel. Does this one at Schurr count, or no because he was just a consultant? Lol… Comment once he wins!

  39. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    December 9, 2017 - 1:05 pm | Permalink

    @tim is Jude on staff at schurr
    From T. Peterson: Yeah he was this past season.

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